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[–] MonsterMonster 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

If Putin wants no NATO then all he has to do is get his poodle, Trump, to invade Greenland ...

"If they invade Greenland, they invade Nato," says Svane. "So that's where it stops. Article 5 would have to be triggered. And if a Nato country invades Nato then there's no Nato."

"He's saying it's legitimate for us to take this piece of land," he says. "If we take him really seriously this is a bad omen for the whole of the Western alliance."

[–] Kyrgizion 18 points 1 week ago

Something tells me the people of Taiwan also better be prepared for the coming 4 years. Trump is liable to just hand it over to china on a whim.

[–] WoodScientist 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It really wouldn't be the end of NATO. Greece and Turkey have had numerous spats while both NATO countries. An Article 5 resolution can be vetoed by any other NATO member. The US would assuredly do this.

A much more worrying possibility would be Denmark specifically withdrawing from or reducing cooperation with NATO. Forget Greenland, Denmark itself is in a very strategic location, considering its place in the Baltic.

[–] rockSlayer 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Article 5 also has provisions to prevent starting the same political mess of WW1

[–] gibmiser 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Stupid MAGA fucks can't have a moment of reflection and ask why the fuck do we need Greenland? Why are we starting new problems?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Arctic trade routes and newly uncovered natural resources.

[–] gibmiser 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Uh, stealing or coercing a country into becoming part of the USA for that is worth it? Fuck that how about we work out trade deals that are mutually beneficial. Unless the whole point is that MAGA wants to rob and steal like the good old colonial days...

Assholes

[–] HeyJoe 3 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Just imagine how much that war will cost. Even if this did happen and ended up with Greenland, how long would it take before any of those things benefit at all. It's disgusting this, and any of the other things being talked about are even ideas...

[–] Maggoty 3 points 6 days ago

You forget, that first question is asked in a positive way in the Military Industrial Complex.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

War industry and future resources is money in the capitalist pocket. Work cattle can't do shit about it.

[–] NOT_RICK 1 points 6 days ago

I don’t get how you can talk about annexing a territory and then at the same time denying China’s claim in Taiwan. Either it’s off the table for everyone or it’s going to end up being open season

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah it’s a dumb idea but there is at least a kernel of an explanation.

[–] venusaur 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is crazy. A global power like US trying to take Greenland by force will most certainly trigger a world war.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

If they do Canada will be next, surrounded on three sides.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 10 points 1 week ago

Or not, given how apathetic everyone is nowadays.

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 1 week ago

this saga

Very clever, BBC. Very clever.