The rich don’t care about money, they care about capital. They want to own every house, automobile, factory, and natural resources. Money is a very temporary store of value so more assets can be purchased.
this post was submitted on 07 Jan 2025
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In the theoretical endgame employment is reduced to where there aren't enough people with money to be customers. There's a wave of consolidation as businesses with lots of cash buy failing ones, further concentrating wealth. Eventually the impoverished public gets desperate enough to riot and steal what they need, outnumbering law enforcement. The system no longer has the resources to protect itself, and we physically demolish our society. Then there's a reset back to a time of bartering.
Implying their train of thought can go beyond "MOAR MONEH"
Also, they'd love to be slave owners, but since slavery was banned in most of the world, they have to skirt around with silly laws and whatnot, so wage-slavery works. Hell, it might even work better than actual slavery, since you can own all the stuff the wage-slave can buy and pay for!
There isn't an endgame.
Slavery for us, power for them. That’s it. We get nothing, they get everything.
They will start a clone economy on different planets. Remember when we were cloning shit in the 90s? That. If people won't make enough babies to continue to grow the population then they will take over.
This is a good, nutshell explanation of late-stage capitalism.
As far as the answer to "what's the endgame", I do not know. I suspect that many or most of these rich folks are so moneyblind that they don't know either. Or, they simply don't believe that their collective actions will eventually cause the system to fail.
But most likely, I think, is that they believe someone else will bear the majority of any negative impact. Of course this makes less sense in the face of a systematic collapse, but again: it's probably very difficult to see when you have dollar signs in your eyes.
It's like a Dark Souls game. Many of the bosses are tough, but the final boss is just some guy and is rather easy to cheese with parries. The mobs you have to fight to reach the final boss are harder than the boss itself.
"Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27ll_own_nothing_and_be_happy
You're supposed to recognize their undisputed superiority and turn yourselves into automatons for their pleasure, having no other options available to you.
Of course that never actually works, as it always ends up with someone like Moses or Jesus figuring out that you can, in fact, live perfectly fine in this world without their economic systems. As long as you're willing to deal with the natural world directly.
Except this time we're so far along that the natural world itself is a victim.
It gets harder and harder to reject the system and "live a simple life".
Rural areas are food deserts covered in huge factory farms. Cities force you into the grind through high rent. Alternative livestyles are criminalized. Emigrating requires lots of money and there are no frontiers left to live the rugged way.
Yup. It's going to suck a lot.
That still won't ever make their stupid idea actually function in reality. They're far too dumb to directly control everyone's lives.
They never will. But they’ll likely always have most of it. The government will print money just enough to keep inflation low-ish but allow people to feel comfortable enough to spend it. Big corps will eventually accumulate them and hoard it.
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The world is not a zero sum game. that alone defeats your premis-
I don't think we will get to that level. It doesn't make sense financially. I mean sure, replace people with robots will happen but it's a long way from happening right now.
With AI and automation, I think the 1% will want less people (bugs) around them in a not so distant future. We might have they answer to this question soon enough. Spoilers : we lose.
Who will do all the things though? ChatGPT can't clean my toilet or wash my dishes.
Also, what is the point of being wealthy and powerful if there's no one to rule over?
I'm sure the oligarchy would be happy with just a couple of millions of poors to rules and clean their toilets. The rest vast majority of us will be useless. I prepare myself for this scenario, I wont leave without a fight.
For a while it will be that they only have almost all of the money; a small portion will have to go to the workers so that someone exists to run things like power plants and farms and mcdonalds and shit. But eventually robots will replace all that, or slavery
Money won't be used anymore then.
They find something else, so that they can own you even better than with money.
For some time, science fiction thought that it's body parts: They own your body, and if you have too much debt, somebody takes a part of you, instead of money.
I hope that biotechnology will advance enough, so that synthetic parts will become available before that happens.