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Greenland's Prime Minister Mute Egede renewed calls for independence from Denmark in his New Year speech, citing the need to overcome colonial legacies and reshape Greenland's future.

Egede highlighted dissatisfaction with historical Danish policies, including forced birth control in the 20th century, and noted Greenland's self-governance since 2009 allows for an independence vote.

While most of Greenland’s 57,000 residents support independence, debates persist over its economic impact due to reliance on Danish aid and fishing.

Greenland's government rejected U.S. offers to purchase the island, asserting it is "not for sale."

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[–] Buffalox 74 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

We (Denmark) definitely have made mistakes. But I think Greenland should consider where they'd be, if they weren't part of a Scandinavian country.
We have tried to be considerate and respectful towards Greenland. Most countries are way less considerate and compromising to their minority populations.

Still if they want, they should be allowed full autonomy and independence. But they should know that they will always depend on a foreign power to provide their security. Otherwise Russia or even USA could get the idea that it's an easy extension of their interest sphere.
And despite our mistakes, I believe Denmark will be the best partner for Greenland, because we have a long shared history, and Denmark respect a great deal of sovereignty for Greenland.

Greenland should probably also be aware that they are not economically in a good position to become independent.
So the losses from not being part of Denmark, would have to be recouped somehow, and since only military bases and mining are the options, it could be very detrimental to the people.

Whatever happens, I wish Greenland well.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Good news Greenland, someone is the market to buy your country. Sure, you won’t have independence however you get a new sugar daddy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

But the real question is, if it becomes independent, will it finally have data?

[–] olafurp 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think all countries should be allowed to go for independence if they choose to but I'd really suggest Greenland to reconsider. They get a massive amount of expenses sponsored by Denmark compared to how much they pay. It's essentially like having a sugar daddy.

[–] Cosmonauticus 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] olafurp 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

IUD is not sterilisation, it's a reversible procedure and Denmark has historically done much worse. Currently the relations have been good and the axe has been buried so I see it as a win for Greenland to stay as a part of Denmark.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

But it wasn't reversed and was done without consent exclusively to Inuit girls and women - saying they've done worse is such a weak copout - "you see Jim Crow laws aren't that bad because the axe had been buried so I'd see it as a win to keep things as is since relations between the north and the south haven't been better since the civil war."

[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Codandchips 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 2 weeks ago

Well that one doesn't count, it failed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Land of the feta reserved pt 1

[–] jimmy90 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Surely leaving the EU at the same time would be suicide

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But the EU has made it pretty clear that anyone who becomes independent will have to reapply (which takes decade).

After pressure from Spain via Catalonia and France via Corsica (they want to dissuade separatist movements).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh damn, I was not aware of that. That sucks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not really. You can't create a new country and expect to instantly gain EU membership.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Is there not an EU citizenship? If all the people of your "new" country are already EU citizens, I wouldn't expect there to be as many hoops

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, there isn't. You're citizen of an EU member country, not of the EU.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

So what does the EU mean by citizenship here?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark, but not of the EU. They would either have to separately apply for EU membership or ask the Kingdom to do something about it.

[–] d00ery 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] ikidd 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'd call that an anorak, but what do I know, I'm Canadian.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] GojuRyu 2 points 2 weeks ago

As others have pointed out they have valid grievances and good reason to want independence. As a dane I only learned about the non-consensual and secretive implantation of UID’s in women and girls that had been going on a few decades ago. Learning about that and other systemic issues they have dealt with I can not begrudge them wanting independence. Whether they seek it or decide to stay, I hope they have a brighter future ahead of them and that Denmark will support that as best we are able.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ah yes after Trump is like I’d buy it. If the people want to be independent that is up to them of course.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Just saw a post about food positioning inside of a microwave, and immendiately see a post made by MicroWave themselves. Coincidence? I think not!

[–] Cyberjin -1 points 2 weeks ago

Trump wants to buy Greenland... Could become a reality in the future