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Democratic strategist calls for ‘new generation of leaders’ as party plots response to Trump’s victory (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/politics

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From remains an unabashed centrist who believes that economic growth, not the economic populism of Sanders or Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, is the answer. “It’s important the critical mass in the Democratic party show that it’s the party of opportunity, responsibility and community but not the party of the left,” he insists.

He also argues that the party should not be afraid to talk about law enforcement and developing a system of community policing rather than urging “defund the police”. Likewise it should embrace the idea of legal immigration and a border that is under control. From applauds governors who have made jobs available to people without college degrees.

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[–] pjwestin 41 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Oh my fucking God WHY THE EVER LOVING FUCK IS THERE ANOTHER FUCKING INTERVIEW WITH AL FUCKING FROM?!?!?! For fuck's sake, the last time I heard from this fucking dinosaur was after Hillary Clinton lost in 2016, and they were dragging his old ass out of retirement to explain why actually, despite losing to Donald Trump, moderate centrism was a good strategy. Almost ten years later, and they're dragging his even-older ass out here to do the same fucking thing? This dipshit's centrist strategy won one election 32 years ago, and now we've got to listen to him prattle on about how Democrats need to be more moderate forever? I mean, Jesus Fucking Christ, its bad enough we have to listen to a Democratic fuckwad explain why this, "win suburban moderates," strategy is good (even though it has lost to Donald Trump twice now). But for fuck's sake, is it too much to ask that that they at least find a fuckwad who hasn't been politically irrelevant for 20 years? Is their really no one else beside this fucking 80 year-old ghoul that can champion this stupid, obviously ineffective strategy? I mean, fucking hell, what the fuck are we even doing here?

[–] lepinkainen 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Dems picked a throat cancer ridden geriatric instead of a young woman.

They have a fetish for old farts

[–] pjwestin 4 points 5 days ago

To be fair, it was Jerry Connolly's turn. There's nothing more important than that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I read the article and it doesn't really seem that bad. What he says is this:

“Basically what the party needs is some sort of a force – whoever it is – of people who are perceived as future leaders going out and saying: this is what we want this party to stand for. I did it in the 80s and 90s. They can decide what’s appropriate for the 20s and 30s.”

He's not telling us how he wants the party changed, he's just calling for a big visible change in the party that will help us win elections again.

[–] pjwestin 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Except you're glossing over the parts where he insists that being centrist and courting moderates, AKA the strategy Democrats have been losing with since 2000, was the path forward:

From remains an unabashed centrist who believes that economic growth, not the economic populism of Sanders or Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, is the answer. “It’s important the critical mass in the Democratic party show that it’s the party of opportunity, responsibility and community but not the party of the left,” he insists.

“The Democratic base alone is not enough to win elections, he warns. The party needs to reach moderate voters in the suburbs who “love the compassion” of the Democrats but question whether they have the “toughness to govern” as well.

Every pundit is saying the same stuff he's saying about working on the party’s communication, finding fresh faces for leadership, winning back the working class, etc., but he's being dragged back out to push centrism and remind everyone of the one time this strategy payed off in the 90s. I mean, he's literally saying they should, "not [be] the party of the left," after Harris got her ass handed to her with a centrist campaign. It's absurd.

[–] ikidd 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's already considered the party of the left by everyone except the left. They might as well lean in, because the centrists aren't going to vote for them anyway, apparently.

[–] pjwestin 5 points 5 days ago

Exactly. They've called literally every Democratic candidate in the last 20 years a radical socialist. They might as well run on some socialist positions, since some of them (for example, HEALTHCARE) seem real popular right now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I get what you're saying there. I should have read the article closer. Yes, you're right about that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I feel u

[–] Toneswirly 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The democratic party is always going to shun leftism because they get a buttload of money every year to turn a blind eye to good reform policies. Money and leftism dont mix, so the money makes sure leftism doesnt stick.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The Democrats are going to follow the people who vote. They get money from corporate donors to be neoliberals. We need a socialist and progressive movement to co-opt the Democratic party. But in the mean time, as long as we still have elections, we can kick fascists out of power and get the Democrats to cater to leftists incrementally.

This isn't enough to solve climate change or wealth inequality, but until the Democratic party is co-opted the way the Republican party was by MAGA we need to exercise power by voting for the candidates the furthest to the left in elections. Between elections we need grassroots movements to get better candidates.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

for the candidates the furthest to the left in elections

I agree, I just wish that wasn't "senile corporate centrist" every single damn time

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

We need a socialist and progressive movement to co-opt the Democratic party

People have been trying that for the past 8 years if you haven't been paying attention.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (5 children)

In political terms, that's known as just starting. As a much broader example, it was only in 1965 that America got (almost) universal suffrage. Depending on the state, that was a problem since 1776.

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[–] nifty 26 points 6 days ago (2 children)

We need progressives, not neoliberals

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

And socialists too! =)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We need STAR voting, not First Past The Post voting.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago

Can't do that without electing radicals.

[–] RagingRobot 22 points 6 days ago (4 children)

AOC should be the next head of the party. If not they will fail. No one else in the party now is good enough except Bernie but he's too old now. Nancy needs to go

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

the DNC needs to be completely overhauled or thrown out. Bernie would’ve definitely beat Trump but they actively conspired against him, and then when sued for fraud, claimed they never said they’re actually democratic, in spite of the name… and won in court.

the GOP tried to stop Trump as well, and in spite of being complete pieces of shit, they actually are democratic and couldn’t stop him.

but, as they say, the entire system is stupid and designed to fuck us over.
i see this continuing until the collapse of the usa, and probably the entire planet’s ecosystem

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

AOC voted to keep the rail corporation safe from a union strike. We deserve better representation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Okay. Do you have a better name in mind? I don't agree with everything AOC has done, but she has been a needed change to the party.

[–] skeezix 5 points 6 days ago

Nancy “the barrow-wight” Pelosi?

[–] berno -4 points 6 days ago

AOC sold out to play games with Pelosi. Get a clue

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Why doesn't the party start with being embarrassed for losing to MAGA? Until they can come out and say they are a bunch of failures and admit to the role they've played in sending this country down the shitter, the DNC is a sunk cost.

[–] Feathercrown 4 points 6 days ago

Never gonna happen :(

[–] Masta_Chief 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We need Ben Wikler as the new DNC head or we're all doomed (again)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

We need people with better ideas. Progressive and socialist ideas specifically.

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