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[–] JusticeForPorygon 70 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Brits who complain about (American) biscuits and gravy have clearly never had (American) biscuits and gravy

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Usually, you'll find they'll start making fun of you before you can even explain what it is

[–] JusticeForPorygon 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I love watching videos online of Brits trying food from the southern US because they always recoil at the sight of it before saying it's one of the best things they've ever tasted.

"It looks like a chopped up ferret."

[–] gmtom 12 points 1 week ago

Those guys are notorious for pandering to their American audience to be fair.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I think I saw the exact video you're referencing here 😂

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (12 children)

We made some for the first time about a month ago and it was pretty good. I have some ideas for improving next time, but it was good enough to be worth making again.

I did feel very silly calling it biscuits and gravy though. The "biscuits" are more like dumplings or something, made from crumbly dough, not actually biscuits (aka cookies or crackers for Americans, I think). The "gravy" is also not gravy, it's a thick sauce with vegetable lumps in. Ours was mostly tasteless but flavoured with thyme for a nice almost aftertaste. I was worried when I was cooking the sauce, but with a whole dinners-worth it was a really nice, subtle flavour. It lets the herbs and vegetables shine through.

I was looking up a recipe to jog my memory for the sauce, and apparently this is a breakfast food? Wtf is wrong with you, all of America? This was like a nice hearty dinner lol. What a bizarre way to start your day. Anyway, thanks for reading my review of biscuits and gravy that I don't remember why I wrote any more 😂

[–] Lennny 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Dafuq gravy did you have with vegetables? It's a heavily peppered bechamel, starting from a sausage fat roux.... and to spite the French a bit more we use black pepper.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Okay… so… dear god please try again? lol.

If you want American biscuits for biscuits and gravy they should be fluffy and almost crumbly. You can just get the non-flaky stuff from pillsberry (theirs are vegan as a plus) in the states.

The gravy needs to have a “sausage” base, if you’re going vegetarian I suggest getting either impossible sausage (the tube not the patties) or field roasts Apple maple sausages (but then you gotta use a fuckload more pepper and more oil). Cool the sausage first, break it up, use its fat (usually also pour in some more oil if you don’t cook with a lot) make a roux (by adding flour to the fat. You can leave the sausage bits in, break up the links/patties if you didn’t use the tube stuff) add more pepper than you think should exist in food, then some oat milk. Let it cook until it re thickens enough to coat a spoon. Salt to taste. Serve on broken up biscuits.

If it’s bland, you need more pepper, or better “sausage” or more of it. If the carb in carb sauce does not leave you in a food coma it was also probably not right.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are no vegetables in biscuits and gravy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Onions are not an ingredient in biscuits and gravy.

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[–] SpaceNoodle 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Vegetable lumps?

Not sure what y'all were having, but it weren't gravy.

[–] cobysev 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If it's not a thick white gravy with chunks of sausage in it, it's not biscuits and gravy.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

It is a little heavy for breakfast for my tastes, yes. But it was originally used by people doing hard farm labor during the day who needed the calories and I do not at all fit that description so I respect the tradition even if I don't follow it.

Vegetable chunks in the gravy seems a little unusual but I totally see it fitting the dish if you don't want to make a separate vegetable side. But here's my little recipe, passed down my family for god knows how long. They didn't give me much, but they gave me this:

  1. Take breakfast sausage in ground form. If you only have links and you want to replicate the original tradition, you can remove the casing to get at the sausage inside. Or just cut up the links if you don't want to waste the casing. If you don't have access to breakfast sausage or it's too expensive, this is the approximate spice mix to use in conjunction with ground pork: sage, thyme, rosemary, black pepper, nutmeg, allspice, ginger, red pepper flakes, coriander, garlic powder.
  2. Cook breakfast sausage until you have toasty bits on the outside. Coat the sausage with flour, then cook for as long as you can without the flour burning. Then add milk, cook and stir until flour is incorporated with the milk into a sauce. Ratios are very forgiving, traditionally you'd use more milk and flour to get more mileage out of expensive meat.

Biscuits are also hella easy. Break cold butter (or whatever fat source you can afford, but not liquid oils) into chunks, mix into flour. Add buttermilk and baking soda, or milk and baking powder, then bake at 170 C until golden brown. Ratios are very forgiving as well.

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[–] bus_factor 24 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This should be a 3-way with Canadians putting gravy on fries.

Haven't tried gravy on pudding but I'm sure it's as great as the other two.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

This should be a 3-way with Canadians

I strongly agree

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tell me you’re a poutine virgin w/o saying it…

[–] bus_factor 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wasn't being sarcastic. I like both poutine and biscuits and gravy, and I'm pretty sure gravy on pudding is good too. They all sound off-putting if you don't know what they are, though.

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[–] adam_y 7 points 1 week ago

You know the Brits do that too.

And if you fancy a moment of horror,look up what a Wigan Kebab is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It doesn't work with the joke though: Americans use the word "pudding" to refer to something sweet while Brits use the word "biscuit" to refer to something sweet. Fries aren't sweet in either of the two opposing dialects. So both should be able to see the appeal

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yorkshire pudding is not pudding, it’s crockery.

[–] kautau 10 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (11 children)

It’s hard to go wrong with gravy. But I’m Canadian, we don’t use whatever you guys call biscuits. We use French fries and cheese.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365 9 points 1 week ago

What could possibly be offensive about putting gravy on a fairly dry bread product? Wtf?

[–] ThePyroPython 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only Brits that would whine about that are softy southerners.

Come up North if you like your gravy. Up here it's strong and thick enough that the spoon stands straight up!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mmm, that's how I make my sausage gravy. Got made fun of by an Appalachian guy for it being like concrete but hey, why not if you've got the meat, right?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Now make one with Canadians putting gravy on fries and Danes putting gravy on burgers.

[–] KuroiKaze 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Hawaiian also put gravy on burgers over rice and it's a treasure

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] KuroiKaze 5 points 1 week ago

Look up loco moco, it's just so wonderful

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[–] butwhyishischinabook 4 points 1 week ago

I absolutely will not tolerate gravy fry hate and I'm not even Canadian.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago
[–] Mokopa 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So when you say "pudding", you mean white pudding or black pudding?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

The core joke here is that Yorkshire pudding is unsweetened, just as American biscuits are unsweetened

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Tapioca pudding.

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