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Summary

Mitt Romney acknowledged that Trump’s MAGA agenda now fully dominates the Republican Party, stating in a CNN interview that traditional conservatism has been overtaken.

Romney, a frequent Trump critic, admitted he was wrong about Trump losing in 2024 and predicted MAGA’s influence would extend into 2028 with figures like JD Vance.

Romney argued the GOP’s appeal to working-class voters has shifted the political landscape, while criticizing Democrats for focusing on cultural issues over economic concerns.

He claims this focus cost Democrats key demographics in the recent election.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

while criticizing Democrats for focusing on cultural issues over economic concerns.

They're already coming out of the woodwork online to claim Trump never promised to bring down grocery prices. It was never about economic issues. They will say whatever to justify taking power. Romney can eat shit for enabling them.

When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.

[–] lemmylommy 16 points 2 days ago

It was about economic issues for many voters. They wanted to believe a lie more than the hard truth.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

GOP’s appeal to working-class voters

has absolutely nothing to do with gop policies (or lack of) that would strengthen the working and middle class...

[–] PineRune 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Exactly. I read that and scoffed, asking "what have they done to appeal to them other than talk big... Oh..."

[–] CharlesDarwin 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What's weird is that most Democratic politicians aren't really hitting the identity politics thing, either! That's mostly coming from culture and from Hollywood.

If anything, it's the rabid right wing that constantly harps on bathroom bills and trans women in sports as if that affects most people anyway...

[–] Bonesince1997 5 points 2 days ago

Right. Romney is stuck in the past with his criticisms. It's the right that needs these talking points to be true all the time, and they force it even when it's just them talking about it. Democrats do need to do differently, but not like how Romney is calling it. It's just so disgusting.

[–] systemglitch 1 points 1 day ago

What has anyone done for them? Any vote cast ended with society becoming worse for normal people in the end, so now they are trying more extreme measures, and they will continue if things don't get better.

It's how the cycle works.

[–] Brkdncr 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Traditional non-maga conservatives can still work with democrats to meet some of their goals for their constituents. It’s not like they’re prevented from working together.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If they do that they'll get primaried and lose their seats. Until he dies Trump owns the GOP and to go against him is suicide. When he does die the party will probably collapse because it will lose all meaning.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

In general yes; but Romney is probably one of only a handful of GOP politicians who could work with the Dems and not get primaried out.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's around this time Bernie Sanders and the progressives within the Democrats starts cannibalizing the old guard too, because new blood is needed to fight for the future - and Nancy Pelosi & Co is not out, chief.

Establishment democrats need to get got.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Bernie is 83 years old. Nobody is coming to save you. Prepare to be on your own from here on out.

[–] TheDemonBuer 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Republicans eventually embraced their populist wing, because they've accepted that's their best chance to win elections. The Democrats, on the other hand, have been very reluctant to embrace their populist wing, because they view populism as dangerous and a threat to democracy. They think that because that's what the scholars and academics say, and Democrats try to be very technocratic.

[–] CharlesDarwin 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

TBF, what the qons have embraced is all faux populism.

[–] TheDemonBuer 1 points 1 day ago

You're right, I shouldn't say they've embraced their populist wing, I should say they've captured it, or harnessed it. Trump doesn't necessarily care about any of those populist ideas, he just knows that saying he cares about them helps him win elections.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Has-been says what?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember when Romney was the end of the world, those were better times

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Binders full of women? Bad.

Binding women? GOP approved

[–] CharlesDarwin 8 points 2 days ago

Fascism was always the driving factor for the qons.

[–] Reality_Suit 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Everyone who has any intelligence already knows this and has known it since his last term. It's a cult. There is no one else other than Trump in their eyes. They've tapped into the cosmic fear that religion has and convinced his followers that America, if not the world, s doomed if anything were to happen to him. The fact that he won is "proof" he is chosen by God.

The GOP is dead. It is the cult of Trump.

[–] systemglitch 1 points 1 day ago

You know a lot of people who voted for him are not Christians, yeah?

[–] very_well_lost 7 points 2 days ago

2016 called, it wants its headline back.