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[–] givesomefucks 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Still missing the entire point:

Democrats are missing something that is arguably a prerequisite for ideological messaging to have any effect whatsoever: a media apparatus that can get these messages in front of swing voters.

We only need a propagand machine to trick people.

The whole country just united over a dude killing a CEO. We'd unite over actual progressive policy too.

Propaganda machines are a replacement to manufacturer interest, we can just run on a platform that's already interesting to voters.

Like, this author is fucking Hung up on print newspapers for some reason, and wants the party to literally make a propaganda machine...

Democratic funders could set up new local papers in strategic counties, or buy up some of the remaining husks and staff them up. I would just put together a bog-standard paper with some liberal editorials, but one could make it tabloid-y or explicitly partisan to taste

It's fucking insane. No one should be listening to this person for any reason.

Anyone that claims newspaper are important for elections really...

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 7 points 1 month ago

Everyone who isn’t a billionaire hates billionaires. They hate big companies and they hate rich assholes.

If the Dems went after them in meaningful, blunt terms people would listen.

But they won’t because they need to pay their political consultants a billion fucking dollars to tell them to do the bidding of billionaires and large companies.

[–] Brkdncr 3 points 1 month ago

I don’t think I’ve ever met one of these swing voters, and I don’t think they are the problem.

[–] 800XL 1 points 1 month ago

I bet if he was the one telling everyone to unite and work to overthrow the incoming fascist corporate takeover people would listen and free the USA from the overreach of insecure man-boys.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 19 points 1 month ago

It's not like we haven't been saying this since the 80s.

We've been saying this since the 80s!

Fire all Democratic Consultants. Today. They've always been worthless.

[–] Orbituary 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The "better way" is to actually represent the peoples' wants and needs.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not as easy as it sounds. What people want and what they need are often different. Americans want gas powered cars (69%), not EV cars. But we need to switch to electric ASAP.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's a difference between what people want and what people say they want. Give people cheap cars no matter the type and most will flock to them.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 1 points 1 month ago

Not if there isn't sufficient infrastructure to charge them they wont

[–] DarkFuture 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They sure did.

Time to lie, cheat, and steal just like Republicans. That's the American way. That's how you win in American politics.

If Democrats can't learn to stoop to the lows their Republican counterparts do, then they'll never win.

Democrats should start running a fear-based campaign now and keep building on it for the next 4 years. Doesn't matter if the fear is real or fabricated. In fact, it should be fabricated. That'll get more people scared. And that's what gets votes in America.

Fear, not facts, gets votes.

[–] 800XL 4 points 1 month ago

The crazy thing is that they don't even have to look far. Name and shame all pedophile priests, and the abundant Republican pedophile politicians that you can hit by merely throwing a stone - local and federal. Then make it known that any chuds caught making death threats against whistleblowers will be dealt with swiftly, harshly and unjustly under the rule of law and order.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean they tried doing that with Trump, and it failed.

[–] DarkFuture 1 points 1 month ago

Dems need to find a minority to persecute and drum up fear over. Works for the Republicans all the time. Totally worked this time. Americans love hating minorities.

[–] RizzRustbolt 2 points 1 month ago

They lose it every time they try to fight it.