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[–] [email protected] 44 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

This killing has created a very difficult question.

If killing one of these CEOs can save tens of thousands of lives, then it is the morally correct thing to do.

And that's a huge problem with the system. Murder should never be the morally correct thing, but in this case it could save so many lives its impossible to argue against it being the right thing.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

All the "my claims magically aren't being denied anymore after the 4th" posts are telling me that this action has already started saved lives. Theres a national conversation now happening about how the industry got so bad that more Americans are celebrating this execution than not, and what needs to be done to (nonviolently) fix the problem. Publicly killing a CEO proved to be an effective solution literally in the first 24 hours.

[–] univers3man 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Not that I don't believe you, but do you have any sources on that? If so, I want to spread the news.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The posts about claim-reversals are just something I've seen a few posts about here and on FB, no news sources.

I do have a semi-related Snopes article: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/anthem-blue-cross-shield-anesthesia/ Anthem BCBS had an unpopular anesthesia policy that they walked back on December 5th. Probably a coincidence.

But also, here's several stories about people expressing their outrage.

Americans hate their private health insurance

Brian Thompson’s killing sparks outrage over state of US healthcare

UnitedHealthcare Denies More Claims Than Other Insurers — Angering Patients And Health Systems

After shooting, UnitedHealthcare comes under scrutiny for AI use in treatment approval

All of these had been in the news, but the killing has pushed the conversation center stage. It's a strange and funny time too, since Trump is promising to roll back the ACA and make all of this much worse. People apparently just have no idea that the ACA and Obamacare are the same thing, or that it's the reason they even have insurance at all.

[–] GreenKnight23 8 points 4 hours ago

The posts about claim-reversals are just something I've seen a few posts about here and on FB, no news sources.

and you will never see a news source on it because it breaks the narrative the media is being paid to sell. why would they show us that this act worked? It did the thing he likely wanted to happen.

they want us to be quelled, satisfied, and in another 4 months, at a new financial quarter they'll blame the increased expenditures on the new government and deny deny deny.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

The question is if it will say any lives. Personally I'm sceptical that it will

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

It's gonna take more than just one exec, its gonna take dozens, if not hundreds of them. But the math still checks out in terms of it being the moral thing to do.

They're killing people by the hundreds of thousands through their greed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You would essentially have to kill enough of them to scare the rest into submission.

That's also just if they don't distance themselves further and further from normal people. Like in Cyberpunk 2077.

[–] LemmyFeed 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah they're going to wait for the next news cycle or financial quarter then double down and increase security. As long as these companies make more money than they spend on protection and security then they will keep doing it.

[–] Bruncvik 39 points 13 hours ago

"The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic."

Sorry, but that's the reality we live in. There are mass murders committed all the time by companies and governments, and while we may stand against some of them (even to the extent where we endorse vigilante justice), we approve of, either directly or by our silence, many other mass murders. I firmly believe there isn't anyone on this world who wasn't complicit in some corporate or governmental mass murders, and as such, I don't think there will ever be agreement which CEOs and politicians to shoot and which to spare.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yagami Light is not a murderer because he only used a pen to do his deeds, which according to capitalism, is not murder.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 28 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Luigi's main mistake was not making millions upon millions of dollars by killing a CEO. He forgot the part that would have made it moral.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Luigi made the mistake of thinking a suppressor is gonna help. Nah, he needed a death note to write CEO names in.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 8 points 11 hours ago

Nah, it was pulling down his mask at Starbucks, going to McDonald's, etc. (Assuming they even have the right guy)

[–] PP_BOY_ 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Simple, CEOs are not human beings. Because murder can only happen between human beings, the top picture is mislabeled. I'd call it something like pest control.

[–] LouNeko 3 points 13 hours ago

The only objectively correct opinion.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 15 hours ago

Yay: Masked murder

Nay: Mass murder

[–] Allonzee 15 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

These people were murdered for being responsible and preparing for the inevitable day sickness would come.

They were entitled to THEIR prepaid life saving care.

And we're instead both conned and murdered.

[–] solomon42069 3 points 14 hours ago

My thoughts exactly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

One of them is bit more direct

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's a distinction between the two but whether it matters depends on what's being discussed.

[–] kurwa 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So you're saying if the guy killed him with a rube goldberg machine it would be equivalent?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago
[–] pennomi 3 points 14 hours ago

Agreed on the premise of the comic. Disappointed on the quality of the photoshop.

[–] darthsid 2 points 13 hours ago

One is legal. Legal is getting dirtier day by day.