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Dated: 2024-12-05. Added: 2024-12-05. Alternate title: “After UnitedHealthcare CEO’s Killing, Americans Express Frustration With Health Insurance Industry”.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 70 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

But that did not stop social media commenters from leaping to conclusions and from showing a blatant lack of sympathy over the death of a man who was a husband and father of two children.

Don't be clueless, NYT. Similar to the blatant lack of sympathy shown by corporate execs over the damages their policies cause in the pursuit of infinite increases to the bottom line? I mean, after a few tens of thousands of collective years of life lost I guess human suffering is just a statistic... The C-suite is well paid enough to not waste too much concern over it. In fact, they probably get paid more for less money spent on those liabilities. All those people denied care were wives, husbands, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, daughters, sons....you get the idea. His life is NOT worth more than those he traded for shareholder approval.

[–] RagingRobot 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's crazy that the media is judging the public so harshly. Who do they think is reading? Lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Well to be fair, the advertisers have always been the real customers. Most media loses money in distribution.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I more or less stopped paying attention to NYT in 2002-2003 when they so gleefully cheerlead the Iraq2 campaign. And I feel dumb it took me that long. They don't exist to do anything except manufacture consent.

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[–] [email protected] 239 points 6 days ago (6 children)

This assassin has created more solidarity over working class issues then the Democrats could, even with 1.5 billion dollars. Fascinating

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like we've found what the Democrats should add to their playbook.

Who wants to go first?

[–] [email protected] 76 points 6 days ago (16 children)

biden should pardon him; whats one more pardon for a criminal with a gun after the first one?

[–] taiyang 50 points 6 days ago

It won't happen but that'd be such a fucking what the entire establishment would melt.

I'd pardon him for the lols, at Bidens age you gotta live a little.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

'Ezio has entered the chat'

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Millions of Americans have trained to do this.

The training was abhorrently bad, very easy, completely unrealistic and provided no real skills.

But they have trained.

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[–] [email protected] 193 points 6 days ago (2 children)

C'mon man, the hate was obviously there before the killing, it's just that it took a murder to get the hacks at the NYT to cover it.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I wonder how many deaths that ceo is responsible for..

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Come on now. You can't honestly expect a poor innocent billionaire who's only goal in life was to line his pockets and the pockets of the people he was responsible for with every single penny they could possibly extort out of the poverty stricken and miserable people that rely on their services for life-saving medicine to actually be responsible for the people that died relying on them for their services right?

That would imply that there's some sort of moral obligation for service providers to provide the services that they agreed to provide to the people that are paying them for said services!

That would imply that when a company whose entire point of existence is providing healthcare services to the people that need them does not provide those services when they are needed that the company is responsible for the misery and pain and deaths that result as a lack of providing those services!

That would imply that the CEO who is the leader of that company has all of those hundreds of thousands of gallons of blood on his hands!

That would also imply that people getting fed up and retaliating against these billionaires are actually justifiable heroes rather than depraved bloodthirsty savages only seeking to destroy the American way of life.

That's crazy talk!

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (4 children)

No more than the politicians who won't pass single payer health care reform.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 days ago (20 children)

That's not true.

I hated the insurance companies yesterday, but I wasn't posting about actually killing anyone.

People have been talking about guillotines in the abstract. Now they are talking about it in concrete terms.

[–] AtariDump 25 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

No way to tell why the working class would feel this way.

Just no way to know what compells normal citizens to thrist for blood.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This guys roughly as popular as Bernie Sanders was in 2015 and the NY Times somehow can't connect the dots.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

The revolution will not be televised.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

They are paid not to connect the dots

[–] DarkFuture 47 points 5 days ago

Good. We pay more for healthcare than any other nation on the planet and the quality is lower than in many other nations. That's a proven fact.

I hope they're scared. They should be.

[–] inv3r510n 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I have a blatant lack of sympathy for the smug liberal elite at the NYT when the guillotine takes off their heads too

[–] HasturInYellow 8 points 5 days ago (30 children)

I do not understand this phrase. All elites are authoritarians. Explain what a liberal elite is..? Truly what do you mean by that?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 days ago

That hatred has always been there. Media is just focusing on it because someone actually did something about it.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It is unclear what motivated the incident or whether it was tied to Mr. Thompson’s work in the insurance industry.

This is a joke right? Is the Times being sarcastic?

[–] Anticorp 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The dude inscribed his motivation on the freaking bullet casings. I mean, come on!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

It's interesting seeing all the different ways every article about this walks around the obvious. The news corps are really showing thier biases this year.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

I live in SORROW at this Father and Husband being MURDERED! WHY couldn't they just Murder a Bunch of Children Instead! Or a POOR Father and Husband instead! Then I WOULDNT have cared!

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Messages that law enforcement officials say were found on bullet casings at the scene of the shooting in front of a Midtown hotel — “delay” and “deny”

That's next level

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Pretty sure it's a reference to this book.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

No mention of "depose" huh... And obviously NYT would try to paint Brian in a positive light.

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[–] unphazed 8 points 5 days ago

Got no hate. Just zero sympathy. Live life at the expense of others, but don't be surprised if they fail to care for you in return.

[–] FahrenheitGhost 49 points 6 days ago (4 children)

The hate for our abusive and predatory "healthcare" system has been omnipresent for a very long time. This just gave us all a shared focal point to collect around. I hope this keeps building steam. This one act could lead to collective actions to make these companies scared. These CEOs, politicians, and billionaires NEED to know they are not untouchable. I supported a girlfriend through terminal cancer and saw how "selective" insurance companies can be on what diagnostics and treatments they'll allow. That shit radicalized me permanently.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 days ago (2 children)

About seven chief executives of publicly traded companies die each year, he said

This article is a goddamned joke. The poor chief executives! What in the fuck is this.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They signaling to shareholders that this happens all the time, online drama does not matter.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Haha that's what I took away too!

Like, "I know we're all worried. But I promise, we'll have a new CEO in a few days and nobody is going to lose money."

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[–] friend_of_satan 19 points 6 days ago (4 children)

If you're going to quote that you should quote the rest of it:

but almost always from health complications or accidents. A targeted attack could have much larger implications.

They're not begging for sympathy, they go on to talk about the effect this act will have on the health insurance companies, which is what we all want to see.

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[–] pjwestin 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A longtime employee of UnitedHealthcare said that workers at the company had been aware for years that members were unhappy. Mr. Thompson was one of the few executives who wanted to do something about it, said the employee, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the company does not allow workers to speak publicly without permission.

In speeches to employees, Mr. Thompson spoke about the need to change the state of health care coverage in the country and the culture of the company, topics other executives avoided, the employee said.

The speeches:

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Look at who the USAmerican people voted for despite all their hate for the health insurance industry: a bunch of crooks that make the industry profitable on the backs of their voters.

People can't help themselves but vote against their interests.

[–] PriorityMotif 23 points 6 days ago (10 children)

~20% of eligible voters voted for this.

More people didn't vote than voted for either candidate.

~150M voted with a 2M difference ~90M didn't vote

I'll bet the vote count that actually matters is more like <10% of the country.

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[–] disguy_ovahea 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

A national response of ~~apathy~~ hatred over the cold-blooded murder of a corporate medical business leader may be a reason to take a closer look at our corporate medical system.

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