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Dated: 2024-12-05. Added: 2024-12-05. Alternate title: “After UnitedHealthcare CEO’s Killing, Americans Express Frustration With Health Insurance Industry”.

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[–] [email protected] 239 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This assassin has created more solidarity over working class issues then the Democrats could, even with 1.5 billion dollars. Fascinating

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like we've found what the Democrats should add to their playbook.

Who wants to go first?

[–] [email protected] 76 points 6 days ago (2 children)

biden should pardon him; whats one more pardon for a criminal with a gun after the first one?

[–] taiyang 50 points 6 days ago

It won't happen but that'd be such a fucking what the entire establishment would melt.

I'd pardon him for the lols, at Bidens age you gotta live a little.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Plain old murder is a state crime. The governor of New York would have to pardon him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

its also a federal crime. both would.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nope, it would be only if it happens on federal territory, like Washington DC, national parks, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

think you're confusing federal prosecution with federal crimes. I assure you the gunman definitely violated multiple federal laws during the shooting for which biden could pardon him. now stfu and enjoy the joke and stop analyzing everything to death. you're no fun at parties im sure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure once he crosses state lines it's federal. I could be mistaken though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You'd likely be correct. there are also a host of firearm laws at the federal level. the use of a fake id also has federal implications.

sadly the other commentor is just a twit who thinks everyone who dislikes the democrats and refuses to vote for either party is somehow more misinformed than they are and are to blame for their preferred candidates loss, and iirc that individual was also one of the losers carrying water defending israel's genocide during the campaign. pretty disgusting all around. 🤷

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Thank you for looking those up.

Politics doesn't have any baring on this case though. Or than the parden idea.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

100% but they certainly think it does. :)

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm pointing it out because shit like this is why Trump got elected. People keep expecting the Democrats do things they don't have the ability to do because they don't understand how the government works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

No, people keep expecting the democrats to actually support policies and do what is fucking necessary to protect the well being and ensure a strong middle class.

  • democrats had the option to kill the filibuster to get laws passed. they chose not to.
  • democrats had the option it ignore the parliamentarian when it came to minimum wage increase. they chose not to.
  • democrats had the option to pack the SCOTUS to resolve roe v wade. they chose not to.
  • democrats had the option to not support a genocidal nation. they chose not to.
  • democrats had the option to not break strikes. they chose not to.

need I go on? kindly fuck off. we have no interest in dealing with your nonsense. if democrats want to win again in the future they need to start putting forward candidates who actually are capable of getting shit done that their base want. and enjoy the master class you're about to get from trump and friends in how government works when people in power dont make excuses.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for proving my point I guess. You don't understand a simple concept like federalism and won't listen when someone tries to explain it to you, but you know all about how the government should be run apparently.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Na fam. you don't understand my point. now get lost cretin and take harris' baggage with you. no one wants it and you've provided no new insights into the world. Everyone fully understands who and what trump is. the problem is that harris and your ilk provide nothing of value to anyone but yourselves and as a result no one likes you. Which is why you lost and sadly you're too dense to realize it even when someone tries to explain it to you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter who voted what. What you've replied is wrong.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Millions of Americans have trained to do this.

The training was abhorrently bad, very easy, completely unrealistic and provided no real skills.

But they have trained.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If these CEOs couldn't walk down the street without some moron in an assassin creed costume showing up. I would be so happy. They don't need to actually get harmed but they should live in a state of constant paranoia. It's the least they deserve.

[–] samus12345 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They don’t need to actually get harmed

As long as they continue to perpetuate suffering, yes, they do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Oh, I certainly wouldn't cry about it. I'm just willing to settle for them living in fear.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah, Step 1: Jump off of a tower into a bale of hay.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

By assassin you mean the one who got the bullets, right?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago

The assassin is the one who did the shooting. The one who got shot is the mass-murderer

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Assassination implies a targeted strike.

Systematic Mass killers are not assassins.

[–] samus12345 4 points 5 days ago

No, he didn't assassinate anyone, just caused them to die. He would have had to know who they were and cared enough to specifically target them for it to be assassinations.