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Dated: 2024-12-05. Added: 2024-12-05. Alternate title: “After UnitedHealthcare CEO’s Killing, Americans Express Frustration With Health Insurance Industry”.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 days ago (4 children)

That's not true.

I hated the insurance companies yesterday, but I wasn't posting about actually killing anyone.

People have been talking about guillotines in the abstract. Now they are talking about it in concrete terms.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No way to tell why the working class would feel this way.

Just no way to know what compells normal citizens to thrist for blood.

[–] Dkarma 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah not like they've been telling you for decades or anything...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

One thing I've learned is that abusers don't see themselves as abusers.

They're "Doing what is necessary", the abuse "hurts them more than it hurts you".

They can't hear your cries, your pleas fall on hearts of stone.

And most of all they absolutely cannot understand why you are still upset about it.

There was a time when I had a pickaxe in my hands and my abusive stepdad turned his back to me. For a moment I knew I could murder him, I could bury that pickaxe in his skull and he couldn't stop me.

I felt at that moment that nothing that would happen to me as a consequence of doing that would be worse than the abuse I was going through at that time.

I don't know what stopped me. I had to live with the abuse for another full year after that moment.

To this day, my mom has no idea how close I came to becoming a murderer.

If you knew me, the idea of me wanting to pop a man's head like a rotten coconut would seem cartoonish and comical.

But I was close.

If I knew I was dying and I met the man responsible for it, I could cross that line.

I've been close before.

[–] friend_of_satan 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Ex US attorney Preet Bharara says that an important boundary is when a fantasy "graduates", going from protected free speech to credible threat.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It seem socials are very clear on this line... it aint a crime to cheer.

Also, this has been so effective that media is unable to provide a coherent rebuttal within the oligarch framework. This guy was not an owner but he was a topish officer within their system responsible for a division within a strategic sector. They need this guy to be a martyr but public rejected that narrative and just meme the death with some heavy social commentary on the current conditions within health industry and broader economy.

[–] AtariDump 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Unless you’re in that one news sub; then it’s bannable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Well, a lot of mods just journalist in the news sub. So this is classic, check who you can't criticize test.

They won't permit you to provide any counter narrative.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Which is very elastic.

Think of it this way; no one is threatened by the sight of Al Yankovic coming down the street in a tank. People run for cover when Joe Pesci walks into a store and asks how much for a chainsaw.

[–] inv3r510n 1 points 5 days ago

Thought crimes don’t exist. One has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the thought crimer is taking actions to carry out real crimes.

[–] Fredselfish 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Maybe you but I am serious when I say we should start guillotining billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Here's the thing. The French and Russian governments were unprepared for massive civil unrest.

Here in America we have companies like Blackwater [or whatever they are calling themselves this week] Staffed by ex-CIA hotshots with access to a massive data base and lots and lots of money.

I'd bet anything that they are already planning to capitalize on this attack.

[–] Anticorp 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'd bet anything that they are already planning to capitalize on this attack.

My guess is they're currently consulting their legal teams and politicians, trying to figure out how to get the public to pay for their own private Secret Service for corporate executives.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I have another comment in this thread. I said that 9/11 gave us the Patriot Act and that this attack will probably lead to something worse.

[–] Anticorp 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Right. The legal teams employed by these bastards are the ones who write our laws, our legislators just sign them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Which is why people need to vote in every election.

AOC and Omar didn't magically appear. They did old fashioned political work.

[–] Anticorp 1 points 5 days ago

I will never understand people who voluntarily relinquish a right that their ancestors died to provide them with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This whole story-arc gives first move advantage to the opposition, the oligarchs are being forced to react instead of execute plans as they wish

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No.

This is a blip on the radar. Gamestop didn't destroy the stock markets and this isn't going to do anything but get people riled up.

9/11/2001 gave us the Patriot Act. You can bet that Trump will push through a law letting any CEOs body guards shoot at will.

[–] inv3r510n 0 points 5 days ago

This is just the first.

[–] inv3r510n 0 points 5 days ago

Some of us have nothing left to lose. Fuck the private military contractors. Guns and drones are the great equalizer. They’ve waged war on us for decades it’s about time we fight back.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Read up on what happened in France after the guillotines... Maybe not the best idea to repeat that error.