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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

    On steam linux has already passed the market share of windows… 7.

    [–] FuryMaker 149 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    You mean the year of unpatched Windows 10.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

    As long as the browsers keep getting patches we're all good.

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    [–] slazer2au 73 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    It has been near for the past 15 years.

    [–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago

    It's the nearestest it's ever been !!!!11

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

    Its getting nearerer!

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    what are 15 years for immortal linux. nothing. a blink of an eye

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    [–] [email protected] 61 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Sadly almost every average user will most likely just use windows 10 past the end and won't bother doing anything and eventually just buy new PC in few years. Also some stuff just can't be done on Linux for work, not that it can't be done but had problems with people not being able to open the files that were made on Linux libre office. But personally I'll switch to Linux for safety and try to make it daily driver.

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    [–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago

    To put this in perspective, it fell by 0.48%

    Windows 10 grew by 0.89%

    Linux actually dropped by 0.26% in that same period.

    Not that I'd be too concerned about any of that, because that's all data from reported OS in website visits, so all those are well within the margin of error.

    [–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

    The year of the Linux desktop will happen when a large (EDIT: large, CONSUMER-FOCUSED AND CONSUMER-FRIENDLY) company decides to donate a remarkable amount of resources to the development and maintenance of a specific distro to make it user friendly and give it the feeling that someone who actually knows better than most users is taking care of important stuff in the background.

    …Valve? 👀

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    [–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    We've been through this before.

    When Windows dropped most 32 bit support, desktop Linux had a chance just like this, but it didn't happen then either. Unless some distro becomes a perfect 1:1 replacement for Windows on all hardware, with no changes in installation procedure. (including when it's purchased) as well as: All software must run not only perfectly, but exactly the same, with everything from installation to every moment of use exactly the same, otherwise people will use Windows unpatched, or go out and buy new hardware.

    In my opinion, the year of Linux on the desktop will only come when the desktop is abandoned, and it is no longer a commonly used platform.

    Yes, it's bleak, but we've been down this road before. Unless a distro becomes perfect, no significant change will come.

    Scoop up that hardware being discarded, install your favorite distro (because you will be supporting it) and give it away to someone to learn Linux. There will never be a mass exodus, just install, educate, and chip away 1 user at a time.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Even if there was a perfect drop in replacement it wouldn't change anything. People bitch and moan about windows all of the time but the reason they use it is bc that's what came with their laptop.

    Reinstalling a new OS is the biggest problem, people will learn how to do things but they won't go out of their way to do it.

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    [–] Roflmasterbigpimp 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Look, I like Linux too, and I think governments should definitely use it to move away from Microsoft.

    But as long as prebuilt PCs and laptops are sold with Windows, people will stay accustomed to it and be way more hesitant to switch. You can tell them, 'It works just like Windows! It just looks a bit different!' Yet their minds will still think, 'New = scary.' and won't use it.

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (12 children)

    When new OEM PCs comes with Linux pre-installed is when stuff happens. Not before then. Windows 11 adoption will be slow cause of their exclusion of old hardware. That old hardware will be scrapped or people just keep Windows 10 on it, regardless of security warnings.

    The Desktop Linux experience, with gaming and all, seems pretty close to fulfilling everyone needs at this point. But it would not surprise me if Microsoft goes around paying OEM manufacturers to not bundle anything but windows with their products.

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    [–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    The windows 11 ads worked. I installed Linux a month ago and would say the transition is done and iam really happy.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Same here.

    Migrated my home studio/gaming rig to Nobara this year. The only reason I have Windows still on a drive in my PC is because the sim racing titles I enjoy (mainly iRacing) use anti-cheat and I'm also a little bit scared of bricking my expensive peripherals trying to get them working on Linux. Seems like it's very possible, but I'm still hesitant.

    That said, literally every audio peripheral I have works perfect, as well as all my VSTs. Concerning gaming, the only title in my steam library that is giving me issues is Counter Strike 2 which I'm not interested in playing right now anyway.

    10/10, would recommend migrating to Nobara.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Nice to her! Which vsts do you use? Sadly i stopped doing music some years ago, but i have bitwig and some bought vsts. I wondered using them will be an issue. Like if they have an installer for windows.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

    I had a big Waves set for a long time but I spent a year away from home with nothing but a work laptop and got used to free and stock Reaper plugins only. I enjoyed the simplicity so much that I purged my VST list down to what I was using on that laptop. I have some Aberrant DSP, Valhalla, Voxengo, among others. Some instruments too, namely Surge XT, Cardinal, GGD Drums, Vital, Redtron Mellotron, and a couple guitar sims. That's what I can think of right now.

    The plugins install via WINE just like they do on Windows, then you sync them with Yabridge for use with your DAW. It was pretty easy to get it all running.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I wonder how many people would notice if when upgrading from windows 10 to 11, windows is replaced by KDE themed to look like windows 11.

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    [–] JelleWho 25 points 1 week ago (10 children)

    Please Valve launch SteamOS, and I can be done with it

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Unless Valve has said otherwise, I doubt SteamOS is going to be released for desktop. SteamOS is basically just Arch + kde plasma but with tweaks targeting the SteamDeck hardware

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    [–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    While people don't want to move onto Windows 11, I recently saw a fricking Vista on a local office supply store.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I've seen brand new installs of XP. An ancient process works there, so if they need a new deployment, XP it is.

    No internet and minimum user interaction though

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    It's really fine if they have no access to internet. They probably have their software that works fine with it, and probably won't work on newer OSes. There is an airport that still uses Win 3.1 on some computers, don't recall the name though.

    Funny thing is, XP still appears on Windows market share.

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    [–] tdawg 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Taking the dive on my gaming tower. Wish me luck bois

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Youll prefer tinkering with the os rather than playing in no time ;)

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    [–] Atrichum 20 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    I remember similar articles when Windows 7 reached end of life. People will complain but mostly adapt to Windows 11, and Linux will gain 0.2% market share.

    [–] Sylvartas 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Will they though ? Me and all my nerd friends straight up ignored windows 8, I'm sure we weren't alone. I also saw the writing on the wall with windows 11 and went with Linux for my new gaming PC

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    This time is a little different. A lot of slightly older but really decent hardware won't be compatible with Window's TPM requirements. They're forcing their customers to buy all new hardware for an overall worse experience. Pair that with the upcoming Trump tariffs and you'll see some people second guess their next choice of OS if it means they can save on a lot of money if they make some concessions on what they want. I'm not saying it'll be a huge change but at least it'll keep ticking up the Linux market share enough for some software publishers to start offering their products on the platform like Steam already is.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

    For most non-tech savvy people, the OS is part of the computer. It comes with win 10, that’s just the way the computer works and it will stay with 10 until the hardware fails or is too slow and they need a new PC. They’re not separate. And if a PC costs more, they’re just going to deal with it longer or give up on a desktop/laptop and do more on their phones.

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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    ~~2020 2021 2022 2023 2024~~ 2025 !!!

    [–] LovableSidekick 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Near? You can install Linux right now, no need to wait for anything to happen.

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Windows 11 is not that bad in the sense that a lot of its anti features are in Windows 10 now. With some work you can make it functional.

    With that being said, Linux. By the time I spend trying to make Windows work I might as well use something that respects my freedom.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

    Don't worry, they'll drop 12 soon to make people prefer 11

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

    If they aren’t smart enough to upgrade to 11 then they aren’t smart enough to switch to Linux

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

    Filthy Windowses!

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    While I love Linux and wish more people would switch over, I know damn well most people just want to keep using Windows. The people who REALLY want Linux will find it.

    Right now I've been offering my friends n family who don't want Win11 two options.

    • I help them get started using Linux.

    • Or I show them how to get the IoT LTSC branch of Win10 that'll still get security updates until at the latest 2032.

    Most of them including the more tech savy folks just want to keep Win10 with updates, Some have opted to try Linux on a dual boot but few have stuck with it.

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    [–] Psythik 9 points 1 week ago

    Yeah, just like how Netflix's rule changes was going to get everyone to turn to piracy. In reality, their subscription numbers skyrocketed, just like how new Windows PC sales will in 10 months.

    [–] CrazyLikeGollum 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] Diplomjodler3 7 points 1 week ago

    We wants it!

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Think about this for a second,Why we use Linux on supercomputers and servers and even our phones and embedded devices,But at home we are forced to use Windows from what i heard its built on stolen code and Microsoft had so much mess ups in the past, and why do manufactures put this stolen code os from a company with alot of mess ups in the past on their Pcs.

    [–] BeMoreCareful 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I finally switched. Honestly, the only thing I hate is the audio manager.

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