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Summary

Donald Trump and Republicans are falsely framing his 2024 election win as a historic “landslide” and sweeping mandate, despite the data showing otherwise.

Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6%, the smallest margin for a winning president since 1968, and his 307 electoral votes rank low in U.S. history.

Crucial Senate and House gains were limited, with Republicans relying on gerrymandering for their narrow House majority.

This exaggeration of victory serves to justify potential power expansions, but the facts debunk claims of an unprecedented or overwhelming mandate.

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[–] squozenode 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In states where he won, it was either a blood-red wave, or barely past 50%.

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[–] CharlesDarwin 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait, did a major outlet just use "lie" in its headline?

I'm impressed. Even for an op-ed.

Anyway, this cannot be repeated enough. I'm already sick of people trying to say it's "historic", it's a "landslide", etc....give me a break.

[–] krashmo 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who cares about the label? The only descriptor that matters is "President-elect Trump" and that one is not in dispute. The rest is either semantics or copium that doesn't impact anything in a material fashion.

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[–] chakan2 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That's pedantic. They won the trifecta of government. The definition of landslide is academic at this point.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

the point is to wake us up to that our resistance coalitions needn't be small

[–] chakan2 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

resistance coalitions

Good luck with that. The last chance for an organized resistance was the 90's before we put in mass surveillance. It's game set and match at this point. The only chance now is maybe the hardcore blue states succeed, but that didn't end well last time either.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

the best time was 25 years ago. the second best time is right now. it's a lot like planting a tree.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A resistance coalition isn't insurrection when it's a left leaning coalition.

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[–] CharlesDarwin 10 points 1 day ago

It might only be pedantic/academic if the term was only being used in an educational setting. Instead, it's bandied about nearly every day since the election, and it does need to stop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It's not academic, it's relative to the various examples he cites in the article

[–] TrickDacy 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Half of Lemmy seems to believe that Trump won by a landslide. Remember a comment upvoted like crazy yesterday talking about how hard he won.

I mean I get it, the fact that he won by any amount is horrifying but nuance exists. I'm glad to see this article attempting to clear it up

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, however you want to put, in terms of control Republicans won The House The Senate The Presidency

So yeah that's a lot. Whether it's because Trump "won" it or the Democrats "lost" it, the end result is going to be pretty heavy

[–] TrickDacy 2 points 1 day ago

What's being discussed here though is the margin he won by. Which is smaller than many seem to suggest

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6%, the smallest margin for a winning president since 1968…

What about Trump and Bush 2 both losing the popular vote yet winning the presidency?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's ok for liberals to criticize trump, but revealing the sham of "democracy" is a few steps too far.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Too late. It's that whole thing where it takes ten times the effort to undo misinformation than to introduce it (or however that goes). This narrative is here to stay. Those who try to counter it will just be in the role of the "Well Ackchyually" guy in the conversation

[–] CharlesDarwin 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, facts do matter. And as much as possible, sane people need to push back on fascists just redeclaring terms to mean something else. They keep trying to do the same thing with the term insurrection. They have been calling anything and everything an "insurrection" to try to dilute the fact that their so-called president stoked a real insurrection.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I'm not in disagreement

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Lies are a crucial foundation for fascism.

[–] TomMasz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That horse left the stable a long time ago. Once the MAGA crowd latches onto something they don't let go. They're still claiming TFG won in 2020, for crying out loud.

[–] CharlesDarwin 5 points 1 day ago

Doesn't mean everyone else has to coddle them in their stupid fantasies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah but history is written by the victor so that’ll be cleared up by the Trump regime eventually

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Did Mehdi really write this on the 3rd? I've heard him saying this at least a week ago. Seems kinda pathetic to rehash this over and over again.

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