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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Education is not going to solve our immediate problems, but it is essential to solving our long-term problems. For the short-term, organizing means finding ways that large number of people can apply pressure. Shifting our spending habits may be the most effective. The super wealthy and their corporations still rely on all of us handing over our money to them in exchange for good or services. Working to change local and state-level voting patterns is also viable, since a lot of the enablers are politicians who want to keep their jobs.

Nothing we do right now is going to stop Trump from hurting a lot of people, although we may be able to limit the damage. The early stage of most fascist takeovers counts on broad public support. There are already enough of us to make that harder for them. And there will be a lot more of us fairly soon, once Trump's supporters begin to suffer directly because of his policies.

Even when there is nothing immediate to do, we need to keep looking for opportunities. There will be some. And the better advantage we take of them, the less damage will be done. And the sooner we can remove the oligarchs from power.

[–] Suavevillain 5 points 13 hours ago

Even if voters did everything they could during this Trump term. It still falls on people in power not wanting to fight and being spineless, or being bought and paid for. It is such an uneven battlefield that incrementalism won't work anymore as well.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I’m just still baffled at how so many people seem to think the same old counter-strategies are going to work in the context of “we’re turning into a fascist/kakistocratic state”. Remember: MLK only succeeded because Malcom X was the alternative, and the powers that be recognized that.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anger is more useful than despair -- by Terminator

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

And when anger begins to wane, replace it with hope.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I've had a chance to watch it now. Even he understands the spirit of the sentiment. Despair (hopelessness) leads to inaction, anger spurs it on.

We can be hopeful once we're free.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

I agree, I think anger can be a motivating force toward positive action, and I don't begrudge anyone who uses it as fuel. But as he says, I think eventually it can burn out, in which case, hope and love become powerful long term fuels to push on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

Thoughts and prayers.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] HasturInYellow 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Form militias I guess? That's what the 2A yokels told us to do right? Use the amendment to prevent a tyrannical government.

I don't understand how people think this is going to go any other way. It's that or fascism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Doesn't seem likely, considering we've had two half-assed attempts in the eight years since he was elected.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Educate more.

Education never stops.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You cannot educate the unwilling

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Then educate the willing. Don't focus on the cultists, focus on the people who voted out of desperation and fear.

They aren't all gone, many of them continue to wish for a brighter pleasant future in the same vein that we do. They just don't see it being delivered and have lost hope.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

Please, the time for education has long passed. It is action within 30 days or it is a lost cause. “Educate” is “thoughts and prayers.”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

MLK and Civil Rights Movement v2

[–] grue 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, you mean the Poor People's Campaign.

(Fun fact: MLK was begrudgingly tolerated as a black rights activist for several years, but then he pivoted to working class solidarity, and -- bam! -- assassinated. Funny, that.)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

MLK was a real one. The more I learn about him, the more I respect him and the more I understand that he would be widely hated today

[–] Quetzalcutlass 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Hated is an understatement. He was about as far left as any figure with popular support has ever been in the US, which is why he so deeply scared the elites who opposed him.

Basically the moment he died people began softening his views to make them more palatable to the other side. This helped get civil rights legislations passed, but something of the man himself was lost in the process. Kids today learn he was for equal rights but very little about his actual beliefs.

Some More News has an excellent video about how little MLK Jr's modern image resembles the actual man, to the point that right-wing news stations invoke his words to support Republican policies without any sign of irony.

[–] JustZ 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

He was widely hated* then.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

I'm very on board with this, but it needs to come with slightly more threat of violence