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Cooler didn't arrive until after dinner. If I were twenty years younger I'd have stayed up all night. 😆
As I suspect a lot of people are doing, I'm going to keep using my existing graphics card until RTX 5000 series drops in January. Everything else is new, though. First build in seven years.
Why wouldn't you wait like 2 weeks until black Friday?
A lot of stores are already having their Black Friday sales.
Woah. That's a lot of printer cartridges. I hope you get the colours you need!
Um... thanks! I think. 🤔
One of the most exciting times owning a computer for me is where you are right now. When everything arrives, and it's still in all the fancy packaging, and you're mapping out the build in your mind. I can't tell from the picture, which CPU did you get?
Edit: can you believe HDD these days? I'm still amazed every time I pull an NVMe HDD out of the packaging. Absolutely mind-blowing. My first computer had an spinning drive connected through molex and IDE cables.
My first computer didn't have hard drive at all. 5.25" floppy drives.
My first PC with a hard drive used an ST-506 interface w/molex and data and control cables. 40MB. I couldn't imagine ever filling the whole thing.
It's all so much easier now.
Damn, I'm old.
Oh yeah, I meant the first computer I built myself from scratch. My actual first computer was a Commodore 64, and then an IBM clone 386, and eventually a powerhouse 486. It's mind-blowing how far things have advanced, especially if you consider things like ChatGPT, which is essentially the Star Trek computer actualized in the real world.
Yup pretty wild. We've come a long way. CPU is a 9800x3D.
Very nice!
FYI: HDD is short for hard drive. So calling an SSD a hard drive doesn't make a lot of sense since they are by definition different things.
Calling an SSD a hard drive makes sense but calling it a HDD doesn't because HDD means hard disk drive and an SSD doesn't have disks
Nah, just call an SSD an SSD (or solid-state drive if you got lots of time and like being overly verbose) or just storage device or similar synonym.
A hard disk drive is called that because it contains hard disks as opposed to earlier storage mediums which often had soft (or floppy) disks. Hard drive is just a shorter and easier way to say hard disk drive.
Hard doesn't refer to the fact that the outer shell is hard, because of course it is.
So since SSDs don't contain any disks, it doesn't make a lot of sense to call them hard when they are in fact nonexistent.
Never said anything bout shells. The definition of hard drives predates SSDs, back then you had soft media like a floppy disk and tapes, so by it's original definition, an SSD is a hard drive. Ofc nowadays we had to accommodate for the changes and there is little reason to say just hard drive since soft media is not widely used anymore
Why are you just repeating what I said? Of course the definition of hard disk drives (and thus hard drives) predats SSDs. That's why SSDs aren't referred to as hard drives. Hard disk drives are called that because their disks are hard.
Please show me your "original definition" because I don't come to the same conclusion.
"Hard drive" is just a quicker and easier way to say "hard disk drive". I honestly don't think I have ever heard someone actually say "hard disk drive" everyone shortens it to "hard drive". "Hard drive" = "hard disk drive" "Hard drive" != Any non soft storage media.
You could call SSDs, "solid drives" if you like, but they for sure aren't hard drives even if people often confuse the two.
Also I'm just curious, do you call CDs or vinyls hard disks? I mean they store data and they are technically hard disks (or discs, whichever spelling you prefer).
Merriam webster defines it in the same way and according to them that was how it was defined in 1982 when the word first came into use: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hard%20drive#h1
a data-storage device consisting of a drive and one or more hard disks
The only definition I could find where hard drive means anything else is from the Cambridge dictionary "learners dictionary" https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/learner-english/hard-drive
the part inside a computer that is not removed and stores very large amounts of information
Their normal dictionary has the same definition as everybody else: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/hard-drive
a part of a computer that reads information on a hard disk, or a separate device that can be connected to a computer in order to do this
I guess you didn't search hard enough?
https://www.britannica.com/technology/hard-disk
"In addition to referring to the disks themselves, the term hard disk is also used to refer to the whole of a computer’s internal data storage. Beginning in the early 21st century, some personal computers and laptops were produced that used solid-state drives (SSDs) that relied on flash memory chips instead of hard disks to store information."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Drive
"Hard Drive may also refer to:
Solid-state drive, a computer storage device that has no moving parts"
https://experience.dropbox.com/resources/what-is-a-hard-drive
"What is an SSD?
SSDs (solid state drives) are the newer of the type of hard drive. They have become the preferred format for high-end laptops’ internal hard drives, and all smartphones and tablets also use a form of SSD."
Back when hard drive was first used, it meant any non-volatile type of storage that was 'hard', I was literally there. When people talked about HD, they meant computer storage since HD tvs werent even a thing. Now go relax man, no need to get all fussed about this simple discussion, you started this just because I said that calling an SSD a hard drive isnt wrong, which it isnt, but calling if HDD is because that implies a disk, thats all.
Huh, I always thought it stood for hard drive device, which can be used universally. It's still easier to type HDD on a phone keypad than hard drive though, which is why I used it.
I randomly decided to upgrade from a 3700x to a 5700x just after the price dropped to $130 (😮)
Nice, painless, cheap upgrade...
Unfortunately...the bios upgrade needed for my Gigabyte x370 board just flat out doesn't boot so i had to revert it...
So then i was like fuck it I'll get a 5000x-ready x570 board...
But then it's like hmmm..i can do DDR4-3600 on these boards... might as well get a couple Trident Z Neo sticks...
And hmm... this board does PCI 4.0 NVME... might as well splurge for a Samsung 980 Pro...
And now I'm wondering whether to get a new PSU so i can do a second PC with the spare parts... and scoping out GPU deals because I'm already in too deep at this point..
So now my office is starting to look like a budget version of this post 😅
Good times! That always happens to me too. I buy parts with upgrade paths in mind, but by the time it's time to upgrade a single component, I want to swap everything.
Gz and don't forget to update your Samsung 990 asap. Cheers
Update what? Are there firmware updates for those things?
I'm hoping Bazzite Topgrade will handle the firmware upgrade. This'll be my first box I've built that Windows will never, ever go anywhere near.
Samsung has an app you can download that will check your drivers. I would use that.
I have one of those in my PS5. I wonder if it's possible to upgrade the firmware through that, or if I have to pull it first. What does the firmware update do?
Yes
I had no idea! Thanks.
Ah snap! I’m doing my upgrade today as well. Good luck with yours.
To you as well! Have fun.
Wise choice on waiting for the graphics card.
How so?
They've stopped production on the 4000 series and prices on those are only going up. The high end of the 5000 series is supposed to launch in January.
I briefly considered grabbing an RTX 4080 Super. It'd still be a big upgrade over my RTX 3080 LHR, but with January looming I decided to wait. Hopefully there'll be a week or two between retail availability and crushing new tarrifs. 😆
Amd is supposed to be bringing out a $500 card that is more powerful than their current 7900xt. That will be a great card.
I'd not heard that. I thought AMD was sort of sitting this generation out. Huge if true.
New ones are always better and we have been waiting for new ones for over two years
New ones are leaked to be much more expensive.
It only makes sense to wait if you were planning on spending $2000 on a new card. The cheaper 5070 won't be out in January.
Yeah if rumors are true they're gonna be hard on the wallet and the power budget, too. Bought a ridiculously large PSU in anticipation. 😆
Radeon?
Not much better. They'll happily grapple onto Nvidias trend of charging an arm and a leg for their products, and instead only charge an arm.
Gave me a boner looking at all these toys. Damn
I respect your life choices. Please splooge responsibly.
Looks nice! Have fun