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[–] 0_0j 5 points 3 hours ago

Youse LOL, almost lost it when I heard it one time

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Where's my fellow "yo'd'll"s at

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Your what now

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (4 children)

People where I am from call everyone "you guys" - men, women, trans, doesn't matter, everyone is just "you guys" even when it's a woman addressing a group of women.

The literal meaning isn't gender neutral, but in actual practice, it 100% is.

As for "y'all" or "you all", I don't see how it could possibly be interpreted as offensive to any gender.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

"You People" is the one to be avoided

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

"howdy fuckers" is the opposite as it sounds bad on paper but in practice it goes over well (except with middle aged moms)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

"G'day cunts" goes over either extremely well or extremely poorly, with no in-between

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The literal meaning isn’t gender neutral, but in actual practice, it 100% is.

Unless you can ask a straight man how many guys he's slept with, it isn't gender neutral, no matter how resistant to this fact you are.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

I don't see the issue with using the term "guys" in the plural when referring to a group regardless of sex. That would align with the definition of the word. I'm pretty sure that's how they meant it.

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[–] littlewonder 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm from "you guys" but I've lived in "y'all" and now I'm forever team "y'all," regardless of where I'm living.

It's the best export from the south, except maybe Texas brisket and pecan pie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

...y'all roughly correlates with coke, although there are some deep pockets of soda-water in the back country...

[–] theywilleatthestars 23 points 15 hours ago

I mean, neither "you" nor "all" is a gendered term in any way

[–] [email protected] 63 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (7 children)

"y'all" fills a legitimately useful gap the English language has. Other languages have a word like this.

Edit: also something cool I just found out, some languages have a way to disinguish "we" (you and I), and "we" (me and the rest of us, not you). It's called clusivity and is missing from European languages. Many indigenous languages of the Americas and Oceania have this, as well as Vietnamese and northern dialects of Mandarin.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Not a gap in every dialect! "Ye" is another plural second person used in Ireland

[–] Zoomboingding 7 points 16 hours ago

Hear y'all hear y'all, Reggie King from o'er the holler brought pawpaw moonshine for the weddin'

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Maine I think loops back around to y’all territory…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

As someone that grew up in y'all territory in Kansas, it's wildly easy to connect to people from Maine!

[–] phoneymouse 0 points 5 hours ago

My boss says “you’ll”

[–] nadiaraven 16 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Y'all is the opposite of offensive for trans people. I lived in the south for a while, and I now use y'all specifically to be inclusive. I wouldn't say "you guys" is offensive to trans women, but I would say for me and likely other trans women it briefly brings to mind being misgendered in the past, so I would call it a small kindness to ube as gender neutral as possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yup, I specifically use y'all and recommend it to people (like my parents) to replace gendered phrases, and I'm not from the y'all zone.

Still up for debate, "dude" and "hun/hon".

*I'm a trans woman also

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

As a cis male, I've exclusively been called "Hun / Hon" by waitresses and gay men.

I've not been offended by any of them.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Y'all reminds me of the bible belt. I'm not transgender but I am queer and now and then it makes me uncomfortable.

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[–] Chainweasel 37 points 19 hours ago (9 children)
[–] So_zetta_slowpoke 6 points 13 hours ago

Yinz goin aht n abaht in dahntahn Picksburgh to watch da Stillers game?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

We need a better second person plural in English. Y'all works but its a big language gap

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Hey...

Folks

Friends

Comrades

Everyone

People

Pals

You motley crew

Weirdos

Siblings

Fuckers

..how you doing, wanna go to the movies?

(this is by no means exhaustive list, the point is there are plenty of existing and perfectly acceptable alternatives, pick one, or more, and get comfortable with it)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I've heard people say "yous" before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

I know. I hate it. I don't know why

[–] [email protected] 74 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

I would have thought that “y’all” is even more so gender neutral and therefore less offensive/more accepted. It’s a contraction of “you all” right?

[–] TheFunkyMonk 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, I’m in the “you guys” zone and I say y’all, it’s always better received.

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[–] TwoBeeSan 40 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yall is the genderless southern hospitality greeting.

No bullshit no hate. Only yall

[–] stardom8048 44 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I've used y'all intentionally as a gender neutral term for years in the south.

Lately I've even seen "y'all means all" used as a pride slogan in the south.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

Awesome! Thanks comrade.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not from the south and use "y'all" all the time. Find it very useful for filling in a gap that English has and slightly faster than saying "you all". Its gender neutral in my opinion.

Never once thought of it as offensive.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

People who don't even live in the USA saying "y'all" is pure pain

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Why? I am not living in the us but it's a useful phrase.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

If you live on the line, or move north/west, it's now "you all".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

Trust me there are many more areas that say y'all

[–] [email protected] 45 points 23 hours ago (9 children)

I’m from Australia and I’ve started calling all groups of people yall because it’s gender neutral… very unaustralian term, and I love so much the irony of iconic southern terms being used to support trans activism

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I'm from New Jersey and have never heard anyone unironically say "youse guys". Side note we also don't call it "Joisey".

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