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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago

nothing to see here, folks. no conflicts of interest, no scamming share prices. no dangers to the public at all. nope. none of that. just business as usual. so move along now.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

People are going to die over this.

[–] Alexstarfire 13 points 4 days ago

Some already have.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

But other people will make a profit, so it all balances out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

[Lord Farquaad sacrifice meme]

[–] DarkShaggy 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Half the US won't buy another Tesla anyway....I won't.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago

Will that stop it crashing into you on the road when the other half drives their magggot mobile around?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

It’s the republicans scammer vehicle poor build quality made with terrible working conditions.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Putting aside my "I am absolutely terrified for what will happen in the USA over the next 5 years" hat, I'm interested in seeing how the likely economic deregulation pans out over exports.

As a EU citizen, if I have a choice between:

  • Unsafe and unregulated EVs from the US
  • More trustworthy and regulated EVs from elsewhere

No way in hell would I purchase a USA backed EV. Similarly, if (big if here) countries ever get round to putting carbon taxes on goods, then the "drill baby drill" philosophy winds up putting huge tarriffs on american goods which are now made with extremely high emissions compared to elsewhere.

I guess we'll see? Last time Trump was president, he started a full on trade war, but surprisingly the noticable impact in the EU was pretty minor, so I guess we'll see?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

likely economic deregulation

Friendly reminder that putting businesses in charge of regulation doesn't result in deregulation, it results in different regulation - removing what hurts them and adding what helps them (protectionism, barriers to entry to hurt small fry, etc).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's such a good/interesting point!

I guess by deregulation, I'm thinking removal of the kind of consumer focused safety regulations that I'd be interested in if I was buying an EV.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Regulatory capture

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

The Guardrails are off. I will have nothing to do with Tesla.

[–] Etterra 9 points 4 days ago

Tesla is already falling behind their competition. Eventually the problem will solve itself. The problem is that it'll get innocent people killed first. I mean it'll kill Tesla owners too, but if you're stupid enough to trust your Tesla then I can't help you and I only have so much empathy spread too thinly and it is.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)

"Full Self Driving (Supervised)" is not actually full self driving. "Supervised" means that the driver is responsible at all times.

So since there is a driver watching, I'd imagine the bar for getting it licensed would be quite low anyways.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

A people who will accept a bait-and-switch like rebranding something that’s not full self-driving as “Full Self-Driving” can be conditioned to accept other forms of bait-and-switch. Case in point: the recent election

[–] Soup 4 points 4 days ago

It’s got that “100% Beef(TM)” vibe. Like we’ve decided that the word “full” doesn’t mean anything anymore.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

It's obviously not "full self driving" because I don't have a driving license and cannot use a Tesla to drive me where I need to go. Same for people that can't drive, like the blind.

If they were truly autonomous cars, people wouldn't need a driving license to use FSD.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

Brought to you by the same people who complain about seat belt laws. You know, the laws that were created to protect other people from the whiners becoming human projectiles in a crash.

[–] DrunkEngineer 8 points 4 days ago

Regardless of who got elected, NHTSA was never going to do anything about this. Biden had 4 years to do something about Tesla FSD, and just "investigated" endlessly.

[–] Hobbes_Dent 5 points 4 days ago
[–] kokesh 2 points 4 days ago

Yes they will. And also FAA for slowing down SpaceX. F musk & trump!