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Days after Donald Trump's US election win, powerful former speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi suggests Democrats could have fared better if President Joe Biden had stepped aside as candidate sooner

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Pelosi is in denial. Trump ran under a big banner that said "Trump will fix it." Banner doesn't say what "it" is, or how he's going to fix "it." And of course the majority of people who voted for him will likely have buyer's remorse when they discover that "it" doesn't mean what they thought, and the solution for "it" is actually not great for them at all.

But the banner at least acknowledged that things are not good. Prices are up, wages are not, layoffs are rampant, and everyone under 40 has basically given up on ever owning a home. Things fucking suck, economically speaking. Meanwhile, the Kamala campaign could basically be summed up as "4 more years of the same because Trump bad." The majority of American voters rejected that outright because they would not accept another 4 years of dim economic prospects. Most of them probably never even got as far as the "because Trump bad" part before they said "fuck that"!

Pelosi can try to deflect the blame all she wants, but the reality is that this collosal failure belongs to the Democrat establishment as a whole, including her. Democrats needed to find a way to make the average voter believe that a Democrat president was going to make things better than they've been for the last 4 years, and they failed to do that. They absolutely fucked it up. They fucking failed. Hard.

Much has been said about transgender this, woke that, Gaza genocide over there and climate change on top. The harsh reality is that the average western voter does not give a shit. You wanna lead? You wanna get elected? You need to meet the average moron voter where they're at and say something that makes them feel seen. Trump's team did that, so he won. Simple as.

And for the record, I fucking hate it. I cannot stand that man. The very sound of his voice sets my teeth on edge. His policies will create untold misery, he will probably destroy American democracy and may even drag down Western democracy as a whole. He is truly awful, in every sense. But the Democrat establishment deserves condemnation for turning in such an absolutely dogwater performance.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago

Neo-liberals will blame literally anyone but themselves. Biden should have fucked off earlier, maybe, but that was a tiny part of a much bigger problem with that party.

[–] PugJesus 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Pelosi is right.

Pelosi is also part of the problem.

Fuck's sake.

[–] themeatbridge 12 points 3 weeks ago

She's right, but she would have been much more right if she said it 2 years ago. Biden should have resigned when it was obvious his mind was failing. Kamala could have been the president, creating a record to run on, doing the full primary to fend off any challengers and making her case in each state.

Anyone can look back and tell you what we should have done. We need leaders who can look forward and tell us what to do next. Pelosi has never been that person.

[–] BilboBargains 3 points 3 weeks ago

The politics of America is completely corrupt and beholden to big business. The democrats blew 16b losing an election because while trump is horrible he is at least different to the status quo. No doubt he will be even worse than Kamala but what America actually needs is proportional representation.

[–] reddig33 3 points 3 weeks ago

Nancy needs to retire. She’s older than Biden.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

If my grandmother had balls, she’d be my grandfather.

[–] TropicalDingdong 2 points 3 weeks ago

Democratic party in-fighting royal rumble.

Lets just break the party up and figure it out on the backend.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Biden is one of several reasons. Pelosi is another.

[–] Yawweee877h444 -2 points 3 weeks ago

I agree. He should've stepped aside 4 years ago.