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Russian President Vladimir Putin reinforced Russia’s support for China, backing Beijing’s claims over Taiwan and downplaying concerns about Sino-Russian cooperation.

At the Valdai forum, Putin stated that Russia views China as an ally with a “reasonable” policy on Taiwan, accusing Taiwan of provoking a Ukraine-style crisis in Asia.

He highlighted the strong trade and security ties between Russia and China, asserting that joint military exercises between the two nations are defensive and comparable to U.S.-Japan drills, and pose no threat to other countries.

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[–] PugJesus 63 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wow, I'm sure this announcement coming right after his puppet was elected to the US presidency is just a coincidence.

[–] reddig33 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] PugJesus 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If the US under the Trump/Musk regime supports China's invasion of Taiwan, will all the tankies suddenly decide American imperialism is Worthy Of Critical Support, Actually?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It’ll finally answer the age old question:

Is their ideology primarily driven by being pro-Russia/China or is it primarily driven by being anti-America?

Or since they seem to not mind getting Trump elected, and support capitalist dictatorships, is it simply pro-authoritarianism?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Isn't this a bit of a predicament for Trump? Traditionally the US has supported Taiwan's independence, and it seems to me that'd be continued under Trump's "China bad" rhetoric/policy. However, getting chummy with Putin might require rescinding support for Taiwan's independence.

Am I missing something here?

[–] PugJesus 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Traditionally the US

There's your mistake. Trump doesn't give a fuck about what the US traditionally does, and neither do his supporters. Same as Trump being blatantly pro-Russia despite the US, and the US right in particular, traditionally being anti-Russia.

They don't give a fuck if they've always been at war with Eurasia or Eastasia. All they care about is having the proles crushed beneath them, and whatever Big Brother figure promises them that, they'll gleefully bootlick for.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, sure, he doesn't care about tradition, I get that. But it also seems to me Trump has always been fairly anti-China. Ofc he's also plenty happy to misrepresent his intent if it makes his base happy, so maybe that part was just a facade?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump%20love%20china

Take your pick of instance of him expressing his love for Xi and China.

Now, he did set some trade tariffs on Chinese goods, but that's all. Otherwise, it's all fellatio.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Good point. Guess it just indicates how unpredictable he is. Just like how he said he'd build a wall, then built a little chunk of wall. It's all about doing the minimum possible to placate his base.

I'm just here trying to get a grasp on what the actual implications of his presidency are going to be. :/

[–] eran_morad 13 points 1 month ago

Trump will fuck Taiwan because that’s what the boss wants.

[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 1 month ago

Funny, I said in another thread that I think Trump isn't going to start WWIII, he is going to create Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia.

Looks like I could be right.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

China’s 100% gonna shoot their shot at invading Taiwan in the next few years

[–] foggy 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Been saying it for over a year now. My prediction was sometime between January 1 of 2024 and January 1 2030 at the absolute latest.

It will be the flashpoint of WWIII

[–] Badeendje 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US military predicts april or October 2027 or 2028 as several things coalesce.

The month is determined by the weather in the Taiwan strait The year because china ordered it's military to be ready to take Taiwan by force in 2027. But October 2028 means the US should be either in chaos due to an upcoming election, or because there will not be an election.

So if I would have to bet, it's Oct 2028. Unless the maga party shits the bed real bad before then.. they might open an Oct 2027 or April 2028 window.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, after Tuesday, I think that’s a pretty shrewd estimate tbh

[–] Voyajer 2 points 1 month ago

Right on cue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I wonder when they will fight each other. As the chinese idiom goes: two tigers cannot hide in the same mountain, with two egocentric leader going so close together, when their perceived threats is not there they will start stepping on each other's tail.

[–] Telodzrum 1 points 1 month ago

I wonder how much Trump is going to sell the Seventh Fleet for. I’m sure it will be the best deal ever, right?