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A message to my fellow guys: if you dislike this, guess what: it's real easy to stop being the target of it. All you have to do is quit being a misogynistic, authoritarian piece of shit.

Judging from all the hurt feelings and angry defensiveness I'm seeing in this thread this might be an extremely effective form of protest. Fragile toxic masculinity is so predictable.

Gen-X men got him elected. As a white man in his 40s, I’m disgusted. After moving out of the city, I just can’t converse with most of the white men my age. The majority of my friends are now younger than me or POC.

It's their body and their choice. Simple as that.

Sorry about the fucking idiots. Thanks for not fucking the idiots

More women voted for Harris, but there was still a giant number of women who voted for Trump. The women who voted for him won't do this and the women who didn't vote for him wouldn't have dated been who did anyway.

I don't really get this because anyone participating in this is left enough that they probably wouldn't want to date a misogynistic, right wing men.

Maybe I am too man to understand but hoping to get a better perspective.

Edit: After thinking about this I could see how the movement could help encourage woman out of these toxic relationships and empower them to live without a man.

I understand the sentiment, but this is intrinsically self-defeating if at most one half of the female population participates while the other half if quickly drifting towards the trad-wife high birth rate shit.

It is just math.

"Lysistrata" is a 2400 year-old play about the women of Greece ending the Peloponnesian Wars by withholding sex.

If it's good for the Greeks...

Which ironically is a top climate change helper. One silicon valley baby is worth half a damn African village in terms of carbon footprint.

It's the affluent, highly-educated, well-off women (by world standards) who have the biggest effect by having fewer children.

Plus, a whole category of nazi bullshut dodged, the original point.

If I were a cis woman, I also wouldn't want to risk pregnancy by being with a cis man. Certainly not in a country where being pregnant is increasingly more dangerous to one's life.

Also for my trans homies - remember that HRT is not birth control.

Careful. The Trad Wives were already planning on out competing progressives for their upcoming... "culture war". We risk Idiocracy scenario.

I'm all for women doing this, I'm just worried it'll literally be the beginning of Idiocracy.

Lmao all we need to do is deny men any meaningful relationships, that'll deradicalize them for sure

I would love to hear other opinions. If you think that ostracizing the specific demographic that you needed for this election is a good idea, please let me know. Personally, I think it's incredibly stupid. If the only women that a guy is able to get the time of day from are conservatives, I think that's gonna make guys more open to conservatism.

Because people refuse to read the article, it says

The idea behind the movement is individual resistance against what it defines as a conservative political environment and the corrosion of reproductive rights.

This is explicitly a movement attempting to affect political change, at least according to the article that we're discussing. I understand and support swearing off relationships for the sake of protecting yourself, but that is not the argument that the article is making.

Who cares - go for it?

This is kind of how Idiocracy starts.

Haa, jokes on you Im gay

Whatever "power that be" is attacking all the pillars that uphold good democratic societies. It started with Government moved to Science then Medicine, and Media, it attacked trust in Police and Courts. It has been systematic.

I knew relationships between men and women should be in there since it is such a major part of keeping a society running but I never knew how it would get attacked. Honestly never thought it could. Lately its been obvious reading some places online like where the whole idea of marriage is treated like a dessert and where people gather to describe every ick imaginable while demanding that its members deserve only the best most succulent desserts.

There's a total break down of society and I don't think its just natural. I fully believe there's some paradigm shift going on and this is all the groundwork for it.

I feel like this is only really a lever that can be tweaked on the subset of American men who didn't vote or voted for Trump and are in a relationship with a woman who is part of this movement. Which I can't believe is very large.

This is not putting the burden on women of this movement but it will inevitably be used in fascist talking points about how the "libruls are brainwashing women to not have sex with you", further propaganda that will go into radicalizing young men.