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I’m only 20 years old, I’ve never voted or even really bothered paying attention to any other election, and I dunno it kinda feels like I started on one that was really crazy? But I’m not sure maybe every election has been insane and I just didn’t know because I wasn’t paying attention.

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[–] mlg 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, read history or take a serious gov class.

This was almost a 1:1 repeat of 2016 and yet lemmy is still getting spammed with denialism posts with hundreds of upvotes.

Trump is representative of the systemic issues America has left unresolved, not a cause, and the writing has been on the wall for decades; so much so that people think old media (ex: simpsons) was very cunningly predicting the future when in reality it was parodying the same issues at the time.

The one key difference has been the rather recent introduction of the internet. You can often find both much more reliable and higher quality information in less than a minute that what you could get from something like 10 newspapers combined 30 years ago. Especially for the younger generation, not everyone is falling for the same stupid tricks anymore.

Great example is Washington Post. People think it dropped in quality after it was bought by Bezos, but ask any international academic and they'll probably tell you WaPo was always hot trash.

All this stuff you see being "worse" has been predicted for years on end, so while you can technically say it is "new", it's nothing unexpected. Even the next level filthy mouth ramblings of Trump are just something the previous guy did off camera (cough bush).

[–] blakemiller 0 points 2 weeks ago

Trump is representative of the systemic issues America has left unresolved

Him and literally every other politician, so thanks for defining politics for us. The problem is that enough people think he’s the right solution. Oh boy are they wrong.

[–] corvett 4 points 2 weeks ago

Not every, but a lot of them yes.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 4 points 2 weeks ago

Politics under Clinton seem civil now

[–] Jackthelad 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's part of a trend of a significant portion of the electorate feeling ignored. It's a trend that's happening in large parts of the West, we're seeing it in Europe too in places like France and Germany.

Now you can argue about whether these people have a genuine grievance or not. But if we don't try and address the underlying causes of these people abandoning moderate parties, we're going to see more and more extreme candidates and parties being successful. And I don't think that's something any of us want.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Well luckily for you, it will never matter ever again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No it just depends on the candidates. Most have been boring but Obama, Clinton, Trump, Harris were all controversial.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You might be younger or forgetting but before Obama it was George W., definitely not controversial.... And before that there was more controversy. Americans have always had divisive elections, but there's been a noticable uptick in the elections involving Trump.

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[–] feedum_sneedson 2 points 2 weeks ago

Annoying isn't it.

[–] LovableSidekick -3 points 2 weeks ago

Please take this shit somewhere else.

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