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What is Trump going to do to social security since he is now going to be president? Just wondering because my mom gets SS and she does not want me to support here? (self.nostupidquestions)
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[–] Boddhisatva 78 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump has refused to say what he'll do because threatening Social Security during an election would cost him a lot of votes from seniors. On the other hand, now that he has won, Republicans have started freely admitting that Project 2025 is the plan for this administration. Project 2025 has this to say about Social Security.

Project 2025’s 900-page Mandate for Leadership fails to propose any solutions for Social Security and says, on page 710, that its proposals for the program could not be “covered here in depth.” Notably, that line was co-authored by economist Stephen Moore, who has advocated to slash and privatize Social Security, once calling it a “Ponzi scheme” and encouraging students to burn their Social Security cards. Kevin Roberts, the president of the Heritage Foundation, has also gone on record to say the Mandate for Leadership manifesto is just the basis of their plan and “there are parts of the plan that we will not share with the left.” Last month, his organization called for raising the retirement age, and the author of that analysis, Rachel Greszler, is listed as a Project 2025 contributor.

I would hazard to guess that the incoming administration will, at the very least, try to raise the Full Retirement Age to 69. I will be pleasantly shocked if they don't try to privatize it as well.

[–] XeroxCool 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

710 pages into this mandate and they decide they don't have room to talk about SS?

[–] MadBabs 19 points 2 weeks ago

They needed a lot of space to talk about pronouns and porn

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

A 2:1 ratio on Social Security age limits wouldn't affect a lot of his base, so I can see Trump pushing it.

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke 35 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

He's promised not to touch it. But this guy's not gonna fix it either.

[–] lemmylommy 66 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

And his promises are not worth very much.

[–] SpaceNoodle 39 points 2 weeks ago

Best policy is to simply assume that he's going to do the worst possible thing at every juncture.

[–] MimicJar 10 points 2 weeks ago

Which is sorta the problem with speculation in these threads. We can say "Trump said X", but really his decisions are based on the number of hamburgers he had that afternoon or which voice whispered in his ear last. We only have wild speculation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

They are almost always a promise to do the opposite. He's a lying piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Lol, he "promised"? Are you new to... Uhh... All of this?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Serial liar made a promise?

OH ok.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Too early to say, but assume Social Security and Medicare/aid are fair game.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Medicaid especially is in trouble. In two different budgets they tried to pull back on funding. Not sure how successful it was but they already tried.

I once read that 2/3 of Americans are "affected" by Medicaid, not that they use it but that they are related to or are otherwise involved with someone who does. That's a lot of face eating.

[–] Blackfeathr 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If they or their loved ones lose coverage, They'll just blame the Democrats, or atheist transgender illegal aliens or something. They aren't tethered by reality. They can just lay blame on a random boogeyman and sleep peacefully at night.

[–] radix 16 points 2 weeks ago

The conventional wisdom is that Social Security is a so-called "Third Rail" of politics. Nobody is going to touch that and live to tell the tale.

Of course, we would have had a similar thought about non-controversial stuff like "cooperating with the World Health Organization," so there are no guarantees, but wholesale restructuring of the program would (hopefully) cause more backlash than any politician wants to deal with.

The blueprints he's working from doesn't say anything about SS by name: https://www.newsweek.com/what-project-2025-could-do-social-security-1923892

Despite being over 900 pages long and spanning most of the departments of government, including defense, homeland security, agriculture, education and energy, the mandate text does not provide direct policy positions on Social Security or its government agency.

That's not to say the program will be entirely unaltered, but that page suggests the extent of the (public) policy proposals seems to be raising the retirement age by a few years. Not great, but nobody seems to be loudly advocating for slashing existing benefits.

[–] Angrywaffle2 -1 points 2 weeks ago

He has stated he wants to make social security tax free