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China’s long-term lunar plans now depend on developing its own Starship (arstechnica.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by gedaliyah to c/technology

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When Chinese space officials unveiled the design for the country's first super heavy lift rocket nearly a decade ago, it looked like a fairly conventional booster. The rocket was fully expendable, with three stages and solid motors strapped onto its sides.

Now, based on information released at a major airshow in Zhuhai, China, the design has morphed again. And this time, the plan for the Long March 9 rocket looks almost exactly like a clone of SpaceX's Starship rocket.

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

China should be ashamed. America would never steal rocket technology from fascists.

[–] Stovetop 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Missing /s there...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good ol corporate espionage. I though they where trying to move away from the made in china memes

[–] nhickz 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Personaly , I think Elon may have given them the info in exchange for continuing sales of tesla in China, and that may be why he's backing Trump so hard, just a personal theory though. Same thing with his relationship with putin and the starlink availability in Russia and "mysterious" terminals being found in Russian bunkers around Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Elon may have given them the info

No need. Spaceflight fans (like me!) are supporting and funding what may be the biggest aerospace espionage operation in history by a factor of 10, down in South Texas. With crowdsourced tracking and analysis. Must be beyond the CPC's wildest dreams!

E.g.:
https://www.youtube.com/live/mhJRzQsLZGg
https://ringwatchers.com/
https://sh.itjust.works/post/27492397

And we ain't gonna stop!

starlink availability in Russia

I remember a story coming out about Russians using Starlink but it seemed a bit vague to me. Has anyone reliable actually asserted that SpaceX are significantly underperforming in the job of blocking captured terminals (once notified), or other aspects of the day-to-day operations that the Ukrainians would do if they controlled it themselves?

FWIW, SpaceX seems to deny it. https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1849956344691912873

" … As has been repeatedly confirmed by the Department of Defense, SpaceX has worked (and continues to work) in close partnership with the U.S. Government regarding Ukraine and denial of service to bad actors. …"

[–] just_another_person 6 points 2 weeks ago

*stealing the designs for