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We live in ~~a society~~ an ecosphere.

No system but the ecosystem

What does that even mean?

Here's an aspect: https://www.radicalphilosophy.com/article/nature-in-the-limits-to-capital-and-vice-versa

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The most evil character in the Abrahamic holy books is...

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To get high with you and bitch about how much of a hypocrite god is.

[–] ChicoSuave 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lucifer was cast out of heaven for upsetting Heaven by speaking truth to power. It would totally fit if Lucifer complained about how much God is a dick.

[–] Agent641 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

God wanted to give free will to man. Lucifer was adamant that it would go tits up and ruin everything, so he tried to oppose god.

God cast out Lucifer and did it anyway.

Lucifer watched sassily as it did indeed go tits up almost immediately.

Lucifer doesn't hate man, but pities him. Even if he wanted to, he could never inflict the kind of ingenious horrors on us that we inflict on each other.

[–] Kyrgizion 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Didn't man gain free will ("knowledge of good & evil") expressly against god's wishes by eating from the fruit of the tree in Eden? I seem to remember him being kinda miffed about that.

[–] Valmond 4 points 1 month ago

God is less smart than a kindergarten employee.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you have it the wrong way around man. In the Genesis myth God forbids touching the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but they do it anyways because of the snake's rizz. But they are only able to do it because they already have free will at that point.

[–] Agent641 2 points 1 month ago

That's what I mean, God gave man free will, but expected them to obey and do the 'right' thing regardless, even though they don't have to.

Lucifer immediately proved they would disobey by suggesting they eat the fruit even after being told not to, and it was all downhill from there.

At least, that's my interpretation.

[–] chemical_cutthroat 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know, one time... one time... I told him to fuck off. He kicked me out of the tree house. So, I made my own tree house, with a sauna, and all the cool people hang out there.

[–] Entropywins 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

With blackjack and hookers...

[–] bamfic 1 points 1 month ago

And all the good albums

[–] Nuke_the_whales 38 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Or hear me out. There is no god and we're all just animals eating each other

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

The thing about the religious is that they don't really believe that atheists exist. They think it's a giant joke at their expense.

This is primarily because they are so arrogant and indoctrinated that they cannot accept that someone else's point of view could be just as valid to that person, as their point of view is to themselves.

[–] NikkiDimes 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that's the circle of life. But with that, like the poster in the screenshot, I find factory farming of animals to be absolutely horrendous and try to avoid supporting it. I feel hunting, on the other hand, is absolutely acceptable, and in some ecosystems necessary.

[–] Nuke_the_whales 6 points 1 month ago

I agree. I'm native and I am a vegetarian, but I can't say eating animals is wrong, no more wrong or immoral than if a bear ate me. I just choose not to. If I did eat an animal it would have to be hunted, treated with respect, and not wasted. So I eat it maybe once a year at family gatherings . But even that is enough for vegans to say I'm just as bad as a factory farmer, which honestly I think is hubris.

You want to choose not to eat meat, great. But to think we humans are above it all, above this world and the circle of life as you said, is just narcissism. Especially when it's a city white kid telling natives they're terrible for surviving as that always have

[–] Lemminary 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

*Homer Simpson voice* Boooo, boring!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

The devil wants you to keep yourself hydrated and keep tabs on your mental health.

[–] De_Narm 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Overthrow god. After all, history is written by the victors and god would be known as the bad guy had he lost.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You say that like it's not all a story

[–] De_Narm 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nah', half my biblical knowledge comes from the 'Shin Megami Tensei' games. It just holds true in fiction - an evil empire usually sells itself as benevolent after all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Gnostic Christianity in a nutshell.

[–] Jarix 16 points 1 month ago

Some people believe the devil wants you to think for yourself and make your own decisions about what is a good idea and a bad idea

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Worse yet, according to the old testament, he wanted us to burn them at an altar for shits and giggle just to rid someone of sin.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

To save the world from such a cancer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What animals are being killed as babies for sensory pleasure? I'm confused. Is it baby seals? Puppies? Help me out here

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think they're talking about Lamb for example. They're just using very provocative language which muddies the waters to the point of being almost incoherent.

I don't personally disagree with the core message but berating people and hitting them over the head like that is just not the way to go about changing people's minds. For one thing it won't work.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I've heard that a common name for carnivores in Vegani circles is "Death Eater" which honestly to me sounds cool as tits.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme 3 points 1 month ago

I typically hear meathead.

[–] AquaTofana 2 points 1 month ago

"Blood Mouth" is also metal af.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That also sounds wicked cool

[–] Johnmannesca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, like, for food? What if someone makes a really crappy dish? It's not still pleasure, is it?

[–] Johnmannesca 1 points 1 month ago

Then that must be what the devil wants if it's all for naught

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Male chicks are literally fed into a grinder since they don't make good sources of meat.

Wikipedia link with photos

[–] _stranger_ 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ok, but that explanation is missing the "sensory pleasure" part...I think?

[–] teolan 2 points 1 month ago

Because people enjoy eating meat. Eating is the pleasure part.

[–] veganpizza69 2 points 1 month ago

For chicks it's indirect, to keep the egg production going well.

[–] veganpizza69 1 points 1 month ago

Males usually. Chicks, lambs, bovine calves. Male piglets are a bit tricky, there's more interest in raising them to adulthood but they get castrated to not "taint the meat", and they're castrated as piglets (look up the videos when you have the time).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] MilitantAtheist 2 points 1 month ago

I like pants, my ass gets cold.

[–] Mango 1 points 1 month ago

The devil wants to live here.