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Microsoft has fired two employees who organized an unauthorized vigil at the company’s headquarters for Palestinians killed in Gaza during Israel’s war with Hamas.

The two employees told The Associated Press they were fired by phone call late Thursday, several hours after a lunchtime event they organized at Microsoft’s campus in Redmond, Washington.

Both workers were members of a coalition of employees called “No Azure for Apartheid” that has opposed Microsoft’s sale of its cloud-computing technology to the Israeli government. But they contended that Thursday’s event was similar to other Microsoft-sanctioned employee giving campaigns for people in need.

“We have so many community members within Microsoft who have lost family, lost friends or loved ones,” said Abdo Mohamed, a researcher and data scientist. “But Microsoft really failed to have the space for us where we can come together and share our grief and honor the memories of people who can no longer speak for themselves.”

Microsoft said Friday it has “ended the employment of some individuals in accordance with internal policy” but declined to provide details.

Google earlier this year fired more than 50 workers in the aftermath of protests over technology the company is supplying the Israeli government amid the Gaza war. The firings stemmed from internal turmoil and sit-in protests at Google offices centered on “Project Nimbus,” a $1.2 billion contract signed in 2021 for Google and Amazon to provide the Israeli government with cloud computing and artificial intelligence services.

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[–] RadioFreeArabia 105 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

We all knew that Microsoft wasn't a good company. Let this news motivate you to switch to GNU/Linux.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

just deleted windows earlier and am no longer dual booting 👐 Linux is pain but the pain is worth it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am waiting for the gaming industry to make it worthwhile. Anti cheat is a bitch

[–] semperverus 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (42 children)

The goalposts have moved to hopefully their final position

  • 99% of my games don't work! I'm not switching!

  • About half of my games don't work, I'm not swiching!

  • 20% of my games don't work but the ones that do are all perfect, I'm not switching!

  • 10% of my games don't work and Valve is pushing for functioning anticheat with EasyAntiCheat and BattleEye, i'm not switching!

  • You are here → 0.1% of my games don't work because of holdout companies being assholes and going out of their way to specifically block Linux despite the massive success of the Steam Deck, I'm not switching!

At some point you have to ask yourself if it's the companies thats holding you back or if it's really actually you who are holding yourself back. Switching is gonna always require some kind of sacrifice or another, and currently that sacrifice has never been this minimal.

Either that, or you are just the kind of person who enjoys being a contrarian and has no interest in actually contributing anything meaningful.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This seems like it should be more of a "write-up" type of offense, rather than skipping straight to terminating employment. This is a vigil, not a protest. Microsoft: "how dare you mourn those killed by a genocidal regime."

BTW - what is everyone's favorite non-MS suite of office programs? I've been using Only Office, but curious what others think.

[–] RageAgainstTheRich 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Seconded! Been using the suite for years and it rocks. It's also multi-OS compatible, which is super handy.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

In authoritarian environments, any compassion you show the declared enemy is a grave offense and needs to be punished severely.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Israeli attaché said they wanted heads to roll...

All these mega crops got some wierd israeli advisors. Facebook recently got caught bragging about it, not a good look.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago (15 children)

As always, fuck Microsoft. Literally been saying this over 30 years already.

Don't use windows, switch to Linux. It's free, actually reasonably secure, actually works, won't spy on you, won't force shit on you just to make you pay more.

Don't use Microsoft azure. It's overpriced and runs in Linux anyway.

Don't use Microsoft 365 online shit. Outlook functions horrendously bad, teams is a sad joke. I unfortunately have to deal with teams every day because government customers thought it was a good idea and EVERY call there is some shit. People can't get in, people don't have audio, people ALWAYS have the wrong audio device selected no matter what and need to spend the first 5 minutes to get their audio and video working. It's shit quality compared to zoom or Google meet or open source alternatieves...

Stop giving this piece of shit your money

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[–] Clent 53 points 1 month ago
[–] mEEGal 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

remember this when they talk about being gay friendly or anything else even remotely "woke"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

I don't expect companies to be doing that much anymore.

[–] WaxedWookie 43 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Cancel culture strikes again... From the right as usual.

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[–] Raiderkev 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Daily reminder, you have freedom of speech in that the government won't do anything about your speech, but you don't have freedom from speech. Going out and protesting your employer and their business relationships can and will get you fired, no matter how just the cause.

[–] skeezix 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because profits drive everything

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

You would think israel pays all of these mega corpos bills... Like holyshit it isba country of 7 million people... Do these mega corps get this bent out for US?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

War Profiteering: It's not just for weapons manufacturers any more!

[–] Jackthelad 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Why would you organise this on company headquarters without the consent of the company?

If you tell your employers that you hate the way they operate, what do you think is going to happen?

[–] yesman 61 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This is a Neoliberal anthem: rights are for citizens; employees need to sit down and STFU.

Why do we reject tyranny.gov, but embrace tyranny.com?

[–] Jackthelad 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You can go on a protest whenever you want. Don't expect your employers to be enthusiastic about it if you organise one in your workplace, however.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's called a protest. Social movements protest to get a message across.

You think they'd get permission?

Also, this isn't really a protest.. A vigil. Microsoft is a trash corporation. None of this is surprising.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Well, given the kind of company, it's not like you'd obtain a consent if you asked. They're too busy getting that Israeli money.

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[–] aesthelete 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'm beginning to think this Microsoft company might fucking suck.

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[–] LANIK2000 14 points 1 month ago

Right, my daily reminder that the US doesn't belive in human rights. Article 23 of the UN human rights declaration for anyone curious. This is also a fun, yet basic resource: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/countries-with-independent-national-human-rights-institution?time=latest

It's sad that the west still glorifies this fucking homunculus that not only doesn't try to adhere to any agreed principals and values, but actively goes against them. The republicans are against half the things written in there, while the dems "compromise" so hard that "barely making it" is the ultimate unachievable goal in the distance to aim towards. Fucking pathetic.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How do people have the time to organise vigils and get into "coalitions" and politics in the workplace?

Granted I don't work at Microsoft, but I feel me and everyone around me is overworked enough that when we have the time to stop working... We head home (or close the laptop if WFH) and rest, not engage in additional activities in the workplace.

[–] Mojave 13 points 1 month ago

For every hour of work/coding I do, there is probably 4 to 5 hours of waiting for shit to automatically compile, fetch, build, release, apply, get reviewed, approved, and deployed. The downtime is immense, I spend it helping other people with shit or planning company potlucks (I don't work for Microsoft).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

In giant companies, there's a lot of wasted time and money.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

IDK about you but half of the time I'm at work I'm not actually working. I have like 4 hours of insane productivity, but don't know which 4 hours those will be.

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