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A lot of the things we do on a daily or weekly basis have ways of doing them that can either be private or communal, some of these which we do not think to consider as having that characteristic.

For example, bathing in the Roman Empire used to be communal, but then Rome fell and citizens in the splinter countries began taking baths privately.

Receiving mail is another example. There are countries which don't have mailboxes and everyone gets their mail at the post office in the PO boxes. It was the United States which pioneered the idea of the modern mail system, which is why we associate it as a private act.

There are activities as well which don't have any history as jumping between one or the other that might benefit from it, for example I think towns might benefit if internet was free and freely accessible but only at the local library.

What's a non-communal aspect of life you think should be communal?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

In the US, nudity. People get really weird and obsessive of bodies when nudity isn't exercised at places like beaches, changing areas, etc.

It's not healthy to only see bodies as sexual because they are always covered up in public and then 100% sexual either in the bedroom or in porn. There has to be a gradient. Everything in moderation.

[–] bazingabot 35 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Power plants, power grid, water grid, post, 5G networks, parking lots payment, visa cards should be state based, public health insurance, health system incl dentists, pension system, education, Kindergarden should all be completely public with no intention of profit. All parallel private companies need to be forbidden in this space

Basically reversing the privatization politics of the last 50 years in the EU because politicians are too lazy to organize this

[–] Nightsoul 10 points 3 days ago

Public bathhouses need to make a comeback. I go to the spa few times a year and soaking in a giant hot tub is divine.

Wish there was one within walking distance cause I would go like 3 times a week then.

I feel like it's a waste of water to take a bath in my house because the water doesn't stay warm and it goes away after I'm done. Plus the tub doesn't allow me to stretch out.

What's annoying is that some cities in America have spas or bathhouses, but are "men only" and really mean a place for gay men to hook up

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Cooking. Let's all just cook one big meal each week and split it among 6 other people, and receive 6 meals in return.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You know, that's not a bad idea. I only have to make one meal, but I get more variety in my food each day.

I bet it's easy to get going to, you only need a few friends / family / neighbours to get started

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Step 1. Get Friends.

That seems to be the hardest part. :(

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[–] evasive_chimpanzee 16 points 4 days ago

Community canneries still exist, but they used to be way more popular. In rural communities where people grow a lot of their own food, people can their own food, but pressure canners take a lot of time for a single batch to come up to pressure, cook, and cool.

Community canneries have much bigger pressure canners where you could feasibly can everything in one batch. It's also really enables people sharing surpluses, trading, etc.

Many hobbies are better shared, too. If you have 20 people sharing a super high quality "item", they will have a better experience than if each of those people had to buy their own crappy versions.

Basically, a whole lot of things can be "libraried".

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is an ideal space for Steve Jobs to put both his feet into

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

what if we held hands.. in the communal toilets <3

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Transportation and gardening.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

Communal gardens are a thing in many cities. My experience with them however has been skin to a HOA full of Karens

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (3 children)

A couple of ideas:

  • Home Ownership. I know condos exist, but it seems to me that we need a solution for home ownership that is accessible and ecologically viable. Traditional houses (and even duplex's/townhomes) are massively inefficient from a climate perspective, not to mention the space requirements and cost.

  • Child rearing. In college, I learned that children were typically raised by multiple neighbors, in order to lessen the strain on parents. I think it is unrealistic and unhealthy to expect people to nearly kill themselves attempting to raise a child for the first couple of years.

  • Recreation space. I realize this is mostly an American thing, but lawns are a colossal waste of space. To be of any use at all, they have to be at least half an acre, and realistically, there's no reason every single family needs their own outdoor recreation space. Plus, a tiny minority of people even use them these days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I know condos exist,

What's your objection to condos in this case?

I live in an apartment co-op which in many ways is excellent. Highly efficient in both energy, economy and effort required from me. I'm not sure that I'll ever want to live in a house, this is probably the ideal state for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It's worth pointing out the difference between condos and a co-op - here condos can be over 200k, which can be prohibive, whereas the buy-in for a co-op apartment is like 10k.

Co-ops are truly the way to go for housing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

200k or more is pretty normal for a unit in a coop here as well. Unfortunately.

Financialization of housing was a huge mistake, one we will pay for the rest of our lives.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sheesh! What's the difference between co-op vs condo for you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

That the buildings are owned by the collective of the tenants, which they are in this case.

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[–] Lux18 3 points 4 days ago

Child rearing.

Daycare.

Recreation space.

Parks.

[–] jaxxed 1 points 3 days ago

Y''all don't have community/rec centers?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

simple tools like guns, hammers, screwdrivers etc. I still think you should be able to own them in case you need them more often or don't have the time to get them due to an immidiate repairing. But I've read some lemmy post where some guys public library offered tools and I think that's a great idea

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Also look for makerspaces, they provide all kinds of tools but it's expected that you work on projects there and not at home. Not sure if you can borrow stuff.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We had that where I grew up, but mostly heavier machine tools like stuff to cut firewood, trailers to haul stuff etc. Cost just $10 a year and you could borrow it as much as you needed. Banger of an idea to be honest.

[–] evasive_chimpanzee 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, no one wants to buy a log splitter and store it for 360 days a year, but those few days you can use it, it's really useful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Yeah, it really is a perfect item for communal ownership.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Property of the means of production

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The US started using mailboxes 14 years after the UK

In 1849, the Royal Mail first encouraged people to install letterboxes to facilitate the delivery of mail. Before then, letterboxes of a similar design had been installed in the doors and walls of post offices for people to drop off outgoing mail.

In 1863, with the creation of Free City Delivery, the US Post Office Department began delivering mail to home addresses.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

In Canada the mail delivery has shifted to communal mailboxes in new communities as a cost savings measure. Problem is asshole theives who smash them open and steal everyones mail at once.

We have free wifi at our library, as well as a lot of other things like meeting spaces you can book.

More communal transport seems to be needed. After work from home, and occasional bus to work, the time I had to drive to the office to swap equipment and sit in rushhour traffic for an hour was painful. Like there is no way every single person needs unique travel to work

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

Private property, specifically your toothbrush, comrade.

There’s always someone who doesn’t know so I’m contractually obligated to say that by property we mean the means of production and not any other personal belongings.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd say mail boxes, at least in the area where I live. Around 10 years ago, our neighborhood was mandated to have our own separate boxes for mail/newspaper next to our house, but before then you'd have one group box for the whole neighborhood, with separate sections for each house. It's much more efficient for delivering that way since you just go to one box rather than door to door, though it can be a bit annoying having to walk to the box every day to get your daily newspaper.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

These are really common where I live but I've never had one. They'd be a nightmare for my forgetful ass. I'd never remember to check the mail. I already forget and my mailbox is next to my front door.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe it's being a product of my environment but there are so few things that are currently private that I would want to have to do publicly. I don't generally really want to contend with other people or shared facilities more than I have to. I definitely don't want communal bathing. I can stomach public transport, which is already a thing, but then I tend to spurn it where I live more often than not because of the lack of viability and convenience. I guess I would say I wish that where I was specifically that transport was more communal than it is now. I don't see how it really could be though because of the nature of where I live and the lack of density and the bad urban planning that led to everything being very spread out, but it'd be nice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Yes! Making communal pixel art in speedos, why is this not a thing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's got to be the nicest looking pool gym I've ever seen.

But why have two pools?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

It's the Gellert Thermal baths: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gell%C3%A9rt_Baths

Still around, if anyone visits Budapest.

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