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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So, this is bad and all that but I kind of hate this narrative right now. Leadership of all types of organizations make way too much money and engage in nepotism. So why are we talking about homeless services in particular? Are they worse than other industries for some reason? Or is this just part of an agenda by certain powerful ideologues to cut services to homelessness?

So far I don’t see anything unique about all these stories that isn’t also happening elsewhere. But I’d love to have a conversation about top-down organizational structure generally and the problems it causes.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Department of Homeless Services says it’s cut ties with three nonprofits cited in the report and were seeking corrective measures from at least two others.

Right there below the headline it mentions how the city has already taken corrective action on this. The headline in particular doesn't play well to a national audience, given that it's an article only about NYC and whose target audience is NYC

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I hope the corrective action includes actual prison time for the feckless executives and their nepobabies

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe, oh, just build public housing at scale instead of relying on a patchwork of underfunded and undergoverned agencies and P3 initiatives?

[–] krashmo 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh this problem exist all over the place outside the USA as well

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yup, am a Canadian, can confirm.

We stopped building public housing in the 1990s, because we were all told that "the market" would provide. Well, the market provided. For real estate developers and house-traders.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But wHeRe would the money come from?

[–] ours 2 points 1 month ago

Better off burning more cash to pay cops overtime to clear a homeless camp. It's not like the homeless can just come back. /s

[–] Windex007 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

4 billion a year to house 86,000 people is $46,500 yr/person.

$3875/mo/person

Being honest, with a budget like that I could rent an apartment in NYC that I can only assume is quite a bit nicer than a literal homeless shelter

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

While way too high, some of that cost is for things other than housing directly. There's going to be some overhead that is still useful and increases the cost per person. It obviously shouldn't be that high, but it probably will make it cost more than the equivalent would be in housing cost alone.

[–] RedditWanderer 11 points 1 month ago

That would potentially make sense. If you ignore the buying power. Let's face it, these huge salaries and hiring their families aren't the things we consider "cost of business*.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Besides overhead I wonder if they are including staff like case managers or something to assist these individuals in adjusting? I hope so. Transitioning out of homelessness is important too.

The article did speak about "subcontractors"

[–] RagingRobot 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why is there even a job for "homeless shelter executive" lol that can't be a real title

[–] Badeendje 17 points 1 month ago

Yeah it should be a civil servant. But regardless if you are housing dozens or hundreds there needs to be oversight.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Corruption is literally eating this country alive. Nothing surprises me anymore. Anything that the government pays for is priced at least triple the normal price.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But only communism can fail due to corruption!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah, don't even dare mention that thing, you living wage seeking peasant.