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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

The only Windows PC at my home is now fully offline 24/7. I just need it for Davinci Studio, Daz Studio and Marvelous Designer. If they only could get a Linux version to work I could live life De-Microsofted.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's not learning linux for me; I've worked with it professionally for over a decade at this point and started with old distros on floppy at home (with poor success; it got better once I got gentoo and broadband).

The pain of switching is non-zero, but it's also not high. By this I mean just the process of moving data around, settings, etc.

Finding replacement apps can be annoying.

There are some things that still bother me, though. Certain games still won't work or aren't stable. This impacts some people more than others depending upon the type of game. For me, it's still being gun shy because updates have caused me huge headaches including requiring a reinstall even in fairly recent times. I've had to fix one windows update problem in that same period of years and it did not require a full reinstall.

I have a full-time job, house/yard maintenance, and a small farming business. I require reliability with security (so not updating is not an option) and don't have time to spend diagnosing and solving issues. I also can't not fulfill orders, etc. because of an issue bother from a customer retention standpoint but also because when selling farm goods, those are mostly fresh produce with a limited TTL.

I have 12 months to reassess things, but I'm not liking my current position. It doesn't help that a lot of the software for the Japanese side of things (tax office, accounting, etc.) do not have cloud versions and require Windows to work. I'm not sure if any of those work under WINE or similar at this stage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ll be downvoted to hell for saying this. But in this event I think it’s better for you to upgrade to Win 11 or maybe even move to MacOS (mac mini is pretty cheap), though I don’t know if you’ll find your replacement apps.

I use Win for work (no choice there) and Ubuntu at home (just browse the net, and only browser applications).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I use Mac for work and despise it. It also wouldn't cover the national tax authority and other apps that don't support mac (though some do support iOS,but those all also support android and not an issue there). They could have sneakily added Mac support whilst I wasn't looking do I will definitely check again before deciding anything finally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Steam has a native Linux client that uses a custom version of Wine called Proton. It handles all the emulator settings for you. All the Steam games I bought in Windows run just fine under Linux. And amost all my older, non-Steam games (like Deus Ex or Giants: Citizen Kabuto) work great under Wine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Similar history including gentoo and distcc to speed up openoffice and x11 compiles with a pile of old computers.

Put linux on a PC laptop and it just so happens the NVMe controller in conjunction with the kernel driver has some glitch that causes the hard drive to fall off the bus forever. No big deal...

It's great seeing a bunch of nvme nvme0: I/O (number) (I/O Cmd) QID 10 timeout, aborting then reset controller then removing after probe annnd data loss. Didn't have the patience to figure out the bug in the driver right now. Maybe someday.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Nowadays GNU/Linux is easier to install and maintain than Windows.

[–] zerozaku 21 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Might be a dumb question but why don't we just continue using Win10 post end of it's support? Are security updates that necessary that the system wouldn't work at all? As a kid I have used old Win versions like XP and 7 for a very long time, never had an issue.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

System will work, but it will gradually get less and less secure, which can get quite bad.

There is an insane amount of ways to break Windows XP and even Windows 7, it's basically script kiddie's level of knowledge.

And there are real exploits out in the wild that target such systems specifically - while the pool of potential victims is smaller, they're very easy to target unless they are competently firewalled.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Alas my game PC is going to stick with Windows due to bad state of VR in Linux :/. And therefore one day it might need to update to Windows 11.

In particular if you have a headset that is not Valve Index, though apparently with Meta Quest one can use ALVR, as long as you get the actual games running.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I tried VR on Windows 11... it lags more than on Windows 10

So I installed the buisness version of Windows 10, which lasts longer afaik

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Worry not. According to tradition, win 12 will be pretty solid 😉

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If co-pilot remains active even if you don't have an NPU, and it consumes GPU/CPU resources and can't be disabled, and that results in say a 10% gaming performance downgrade compared to Linux (these are a lot of ifs), then I imagine desktop Linux would finally get a big bump in adoption, once all the 'serious gamers' start using it purely for performance benefits. We'll see how this plays out.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 2 points 1 day ago

People won't be able to use GPUs anyway because they'll all be reserved for "AI" use and priced accordingly.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Meanwhile, I deleted my Windows partition (even though I paid for it, damn OEM tricks) and feel better for it https://lemmy.world/comment/12818969

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You think the US govt will let MS drop 2/3rds of US citizens laptops from support?

I think some senators will hold a hearing to grandstand about security and forced obsolescence and MS will be shamed into extending the support window a couple more years.

[–] riodoro1 14 points 2 days ago

Meanwhile the US govt:

says nothing because it has its mouth full of corporate cock

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Windows 10 is over 10 years old at this point. Microsoft learned from XP It can’t live forever.

Businesses typically lease their machines for 2-3 years so they all support 11. And do you really think the government cares about regular citizens? lol.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What will the government do themselves? I think they are still running 10, and I haven't heard of any announcements from agencies switching.

[–] hangonasecond 6 points 2 days ago

Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019 has a 10 year support window, and subsequent LTSC versions, 5 years. If you can get your hands on one of these licences you would presumably continue to receive security patches. If the US government is somehow not running on this kind of licence, it would be pretty funny, but I'm sure Microsoft would be lenient and let them jump onto whatever compatible LTSC version given its an American company.

[–] JusticeForPorygon 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They only switched from XP what, less than 10 years ago?

I think the hospital my mother works at was using XP for all of their computers until like 2018-2019

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

But most hospital computers won't be exposed to internet right? And they probably run a bunch of propriety software that only supports xp so makes sense it took them a long time.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Most likely an unpopular opinion, but I took this opportunity to try something new and made the switch to macOS at home as my daily device. If I do end up gaming, I’ll probably just get myself a Steam Deck.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Which ironically also requires you do buy a new device

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

The irony isn’t lost on me!

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You're already closer to using Linux by doing so. Lots of people are unaware that macOS continues to be Certified UNIX. Many of the command line tools function very similarly to their Linux counterparts.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago

This is actually why I use macOS at work - I wasn’t able to get a Linux box approved by IT but they happily support macOS and I get to use basically all the same software I do on Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago

I'm waiting for Microsoft to inevitably be forced to keep supporting 10 for free[^1] longer than they planned, because 11 uptake just isn't fast enough.

What happened with 7 will happen with 10, and they'll end up supporting it for another year or two.

Microsoft is trying damn hard to not care about consumers, but the consumer market still matters, so I suspect angry customers will force their hand.

[^1]: They already plan on charging money to keep supporting 10 past it's end-of-life date, but I suspect this will have a lot of angry pushback that will result in at least a year or two of free updates.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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