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[–] TCB13 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Completely bullshit, garbage clickbait title.

Windows 10 is near EoL, however that's for Home/Pro/Enterprise versions, you can move to one of those for more time:

  • Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC - 2027
  • Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC - 2032

To be fair I don't really believe that Microsoft will kill it when they say they will. And even if they do it, porting security updates from those LTSC versions into the regular ones might be doable.

Now on Windows 11:

You can just disable copilot and all the other garbage using group policy, now that hard and you'll end up with essentially Windows 10. https://www.xda-developers.com/how-disable-microsoft-copilot/

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They hated him because he spoke the truth.

porting security updates from those LTSC versions into the regular ones might be doable.

The way will likely be to just adjust some registry keys to force Windows Update to pull from the LTSC update channel. That's been the solution for ages, no "porting" needed.

Group Policy

I've lost count of how many of these articles have been posted on Lemmy screaming that the sky was falling over something you can switch off with three clicks and a scroll (Start, Settings, Personalization, scroll to the bottom and click the final switch). Group policy may be beyond the general skill level, which makes the constant Linux suggestions even more laughable.

Like you, I regularly direct people to group policy (and even how to safely activate Windows with a fake Pro license so they can get Group Policy). Fighting an uphill battle.

[–] rolling_resistance 6 points 1 month ago

As a former Windows user: this is true, you can disable most of the features you don't like. I was doing that for many Windows versions, from 98 to 10.

However it was indeed fighting an uphill battle: there was more and more BS with every update, I felt that I couldn't trust my computer, I had to check forums in order to know what's the newest thing to turn off.

I am happier now without Windows, even though I had to learn a few new apps.

[–] TCB13 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Group policy may be beyond the general skill level, which makes the constant Linux suggestions even more laughable.

Ahaha yeah, I've said that SO MANY times. People have issues setting a few toggles on a point-and-click UI but then it is okay to suddenly move to a entirely different OS that most likely won't have the software they're used to and requires terminal skills to deal with most things. Laughable indeed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

requires terminal skills to deal with most things

Have you actually used linux? Terminal is optional. Most linux users use it because it's rad, not because it's necessary.

Digging through the registry or searching ad laden websites to find where a new setting or old menu is buried is more time consuming than typing man <command> or tldr <command>. The latter is to improve my system and the former to prevent a private company from making it worse.

[–] zerozaku 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doesn't group policy tweaks gets reverted on update or something like that? I heard about this group policy workaround and also heard something that said it wasn't that great of a solution.

[–] TCB13 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, that’s a myth. Registry edits may revert in some cases yes, but group policy is different as it designed exactly to configure machines in a stable way.

[–] zerozaku 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Glad to hear that. After trying to linux and not having a great experience, I am forced to comeback to Windows. Will try these out next time.

On that note, do we have some good Windows forks/builds which remove the bloat for us? I heard about lot of them, not sure which one is actually worth trying.

[–] TCB13 3 points 1 month ago

You should not trust those builds. Everything you need to know is documented here: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services

Windows 10/11 Enterprise is recommended as that's the version where Microsoft can't fuck up.