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[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Assuming I have time, and an audience that isn't too entrenched, I will try to respond with with something that goes like:

Science is both a method of acquiring new knowledge and a largely self-consistent model containing the already acquired knowledge. As we acquire new knowledge, we must update the model.

If our sum of all knowledge was perfect, then we'd never update the model. But, over time, the model tends towards "better than before".

As it is physically impossible to be an expert in all things, at some point you have to trust that the people that have been updating or refining the model where it relates to their specific expertise are largely doing so in good faith and in accordance with the scientific method.

This is not the same as faith. The model can be wrong in places and will get updated over time. This is a process. If you understand the process, then you understand science.

(I sometimes will use different phrasing -- the word "model" throws some people, so instead I'll use "the whole body of knowledge" or something like that.)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for helping me articulate an argument later.

[–] Meron35 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"Science adjusts its views based on what's observed

Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved"

From Tim Minchin's Storm the Animated Movie - YouTube - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U

[–] dis_honestfamiliar 2 points 2 weeks ago

Isn't this sort of like It is the case of not yet ruled out?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I like this one. I've heard Scientist lie or scientist are wrong, but it feels ironic that people still trust them every single day with the products that they consume that were generally thought of from scientists.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

I trust those scientists who want to bust something and end up confirming it. Like flat-earthers, constantly proving that the earth is round, using cheap equipment and expensive equipment alike.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If crackpots never contributed anything to science, then why do we all use Cubic Time now??!

[–] AngryCommieKender 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Glytch 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't look for Time Cube. That way lies madness.

[–] FuglyDuck 4 points 2 weeks ago

I like time isododecahedrosolies.

(Yes. I made that shape up. You think I can be arsed to remember polyhedra?)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Time cube. What are you, educated stupid and evil?

[–] kameecoding 7 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Questioning the science is how you do science.