Joe is getting the Jimmy Carter treatment from Trump with Iran, just like Regan gave it to Jimmy with the Iran hostage crisis.
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Don't forget when the Nixon campaign sabotaged the Vietnam peace talks.
"No administration has helped Israel more to turn itself into a pariah state" I think is what he meant to say.
He'd better hope Donald Trump doesn't win the next election or else Joe Biden will go down in history as the president who loved genociding brown people so much he sacrificed US democracy for it.
Joe Biden will go down in history as the president who loved genociding brown people so much he sacrificed US democracy for it.
That cake is baked. The question to me right now is can we get Harris into office before a flaming hot war becomes a reality. Biden is obviously not in command right now, so who is?
I thought you might know what you're talking about until that last sentence
I'm not suggesting some conspiracy or shadowy cabal, but rather that our foreign policy is coming largely from Biden's aides and Blinken, and not Biden himself. I didnt mean for the statement to come of as conspiratorial.
I mean... that's kind of how it works? The president isn't some kind of demi-god that holds all knowledge and power in their hands while in office... they have lots of staffers and consultants that provide info and policy suggestions.
…they have lots of staffers and consultants that provide info and policy suggestions.
Sure. For things like which bridge to build or school lunches.
Things like the US policy on Israel/ Gaza, or US policy on Ukraine/ Russia: issues like this are always elevated to the top.
And so to me its a "Buck stops where?" question. Like, at a certain point, the buck stops with some one and I'm suggesting it isn't Biden right now. The guy is clearly not in faculatative command and doesnt (I think) seem aware of the basics of the situation, as the article demonstrates.
So... you're saying the Secretary of State is meant to be an international gofer for the president? That no one is supposed to do anything without a clear directive from the president?
No wonder so many people seem to think the presidency is the only election that matters, they consider the role that of a god-king of ultimate power...
I don't think I suggested that. Seems like you are projecting something fantastical into what I said.
I'm suggesting that the issues of highest stakes don't leave the presidents desk. World order issues. I think both Israel/Gaza and Ukraine/ Russia qualify for this. And I don't think Biden is doing the job.
before a flaming hot war becomes a reality
I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you mean a wider conflict with ground armies clashing, and not that you mean there is no flaming hot war right now.
Over 100,000 people in Gaza are dead or have been missing long enough to be presumed dead. Here in Lebanon 2,000 people are dead, almost all civilians, including 100 medical staff, a whole section of the city has been turned into embers, and 1/5th of the country is displaced in overfilled shelters.
And by shelters I mean crumbling public schools with individual donations making up most of the shelter supplies.
I don’t even know what my life will look like in one week, and I’m in a much better situation than others. The American political bickering in every corner of the internet (the place I go to for a quick escape) has been extra exhausting.
This is worse than the July war in 2006, this is definitely a flaming hot war in my book.
You are absolutely right and I should not be diminishing what's happening. I'm just incredibly frustrated by the impotence of Biden, the willingness of Democrats to just carry water, and the unwillingness of Harris to to step up and do the right thing.
There's a peace deal?
He has a concept of a peace deal.
God this is sad. I'm trying to come up with a parallel to this. With a good metaphor. Like the closest I can think of is if you have a friend whose significant other is cheating on them blatantly and disrespectfully and obviously. To the point that the whole world knows. To the point that they rub it in your friend's face constantly. To the point that you stop feeling sorry for your friend and actually start to resent them for being so willfully ignorant. That's the closest thing I could think of to what I'm seeing from Joe Biden today.
What little Legacy he has is just been completely tarnished.
A guy bragging about how good friends he is with a mass shooter because he bought them a gun when nobody else would?
Everybody keeps talking about Biden and forgetting how Trump did more than anyone else to help Bibi start a war:
By contrast, Republican Donald Trump and Netanyahu have had a much more cordial relationship. Trump hosted Netanyahu in July. While president, Trump initiated policy changes that Netanyahu applauded, including recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, moving the U.S. embassy there from Tel Aviv, recognizing Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights and rescinding a decades-old U.S. legal determination that Jewish settlements in the West Bank were inconsistent with international law.
It wouldn't be the first time republicans cynically weaken US foreign policy and approve the needless shedding of additional blood, for personal gain.
Then they turn around to the gullible and yell sEe? bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe? wHy BoThEr VoTiNg?