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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I have become aggressively more anti-capitalist as I've grown older. At 56, with a nice professional career mostly behind me, I am vigorously ANTIFA EAT THE RICH ACAB.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

Well some people never learn I guess.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

On some social positions, I've grown more conservative.

On fiscal issues? Son, at this point I'm only slightly to the left of "Feed the 1% to the homeless and convert their left-over mansions into low income apartments."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I am more conservative in the sense that I see things with more nuance. I understand societies are very complex systems in a fragile equilibrium and that my naive solutions to the world's problems are not feasible.

And yet, each day I'm more convinced we need to eat the rich.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Eating the Rich is not enough

Edit: We need to create a whole new system to prevent people from getting that rich and to keep the power to the people

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You're bringing up a good point. People who say we'll become more "conservative" are usually equivocating on the meaning of the word. It's not like we're going to wake up tomorrow and decide that global warming is a hoax, or that we should stop eating cats and dogs. Of course we'll keep doing those things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

The people who say you become more conservative usually mean that you will become more well off. And indeed when they earn their financial freedom, they want to protect the status quo. So they start seeing others as threats: be it young people wanting more rights, employees wanting fair salaries, immigrants coming for your hard earned money, everyone is a threat. This is the how the mind of an unempathic person works.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago

If conservative means "cautious and wary of unexpected results", "disillusioned with methods that we tried and failed with" or maybe even "equipped with experience of successful and failed cooperation with various sorts of people", then yes. Already before age 50, I'm spoiled with various good and bad experiences. I cannot exclude that as my tendency to explore decreases (psychology tends to affirm this trend), I may get prejudiced too. I may have to figure out something to counter it.

But if conservative means that I suddenly don't want a society with equality and without hierarchy, then - nope.

[–] BilboBargains 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe we become more extreme in our existing beliefs. My political compass position drifted right from bottom left as I hit my thirties. After the Iraq invasion of 2003 and recessions following 2008 it swung back towards Ghandi. I became convinced that conservative politics isn't working in my late forties and that has only been reinforced as I try to access the creaking UK healthcare system.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, the political compass is astrology that makes no actual point.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

It's definitely a terrible system, and there are better ones out there like 10Groups. But astrology is completely meaningless. The PCT at least tells you a vague (terrible, yes), but somewhat meaningful direction in which you believe.

For example, I know that since I'm libertarian left on the PCT, that I'm going to disagree with 90% of the things somebody who's authoritarian right on the PCT believes.

Astrology doesn't have that ability to reliably compare, since it is literally and completely meaningless.

But again, shit like 10Groups is better and everybody should switch to measures that have more than 2 axis.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

It's completely meaningless, actual positions and ideologies are the only way to actually measure.

[–] zeppo 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The people who told me that were 100% boomers. There’s that idiotic saying “if you’re not liberal* when you’re 20, you have no heart. If you’re not conservative when you’re 40 you have no brains” ok boomer.

Note this is using the US meaning of liberal, not to mean “capitalist”.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The one I've heard replaces "brains" with "money."

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 19 hours ago (38 children)

I don't know what it's like to live under communism, but I do know what it's like to live under capitalism and it's grip tightens more and more with every passing year.

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[–] ZILtoid1991 18 points 19 hours ago

“You will be more conservative as you grow older” is not a truth, but a threat. If you don't become a conservative under their regime, you won't become old.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I think they misunderstood what was happening cause they were getting wealthier as they got older.

Honestly, you just become more protective of your stuff and things you consider yours as you get older.

There are plenty of nerds that are super conservative about their fandoms and what is allowed to happen with them and same for all kinds of niches but the idea we would get more conservative with money really assumed we would accumulate more of it and assets. But what people do have is their apps and thoughts and those... Those people will be just as conservative as the boomers are about their money as they get older.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Honestly, you just become more protective of your stuff and things you consider yours as you get older.

Isn't that plainly false? When I was in college, and just after that, I had almost no money, so I was incredibly protective of my stuff and things I considered mine. Later my income went up, so I didn't need to worry about it as much. Surely many other people have had similar experiences.

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