Just show me pictures and I'll pick
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Well first these are the frequent talking points of incels when they harp on what they consider “low value females”. If you find yourself constantly repeating such devaluing talking points, maybe a break from the internet would do you good. Secondly, and more generally, it is usually more attractive to talk about the things you love than the things you hate. Unless you have already established that you and the other person hate the same things, then you can bond over that too.
This. She probably wasn't disgusted by the content, but by the form of what he said.
I'm imagining he was an obese single dad scrolling Tinder as he was telling her this.
not having positive preferences to look for but instead having multiple dealbreakers suggests that all women are functionally the same to you except for the ones who you think are lower quality.. that is to say, you are not meaningfully valuing other people
Was she an obese single mom who had met your friend on tinder?
"I just want a manic pixie dream girl whos never known the touch of a man but is an absolute nymphomaniac and doesn't have sharp knees is that so much to ask???"
Saving this for when I have to describe my preference to anyone again.
There are more appropriate ways to say this:
"Nobody with kids. I might want kids some day, but I'm not ready yet, and it feels like there would be too much pressure to either be involved with her kids or be cut out of a major portion of her life until we're really serious. And again, not ready.
And somebody athletic, since I'm into biking and hiking and other activities that require a certain level of fitness.
And... well, somebody who isn't into the whole casual sex thing, honestly. I think sex is special and, for me, requires a strong emotional connection. I want someone who has similar views on sex."
See, I feel like it changes it when you're not focusing on the other person, but yourself. I'm not ready for kids, I'm into fitness, I'm a demisexual. It sets up the same thing without disparaging people who aren't what you're looking for.
My only gripe with this is that nobody should have to defend themself for not wanting kids. If you don't want kids then you don't want kids and should be able to just leave it at that.
This is an actualized response. In the moment a lot of people can't pull this off, it does take practice. You're right, of course, this is better...I just wish people would more commonly be willing to ask a clarifying question or two before pulling out the butcher's knife.
Some folks just aren't good with their words and may otherwise be great people. In this situation, true or not, they were talking for some time. I think that level of interaction is worth some benefit of the doubt and the tiniest bit of patience. Instead, despite hitting it off and having a great conversation, shallow lady over there judges him by a single moment amongst probably a dozen leading up to it.
...but that is how it goes. That's the game. It's all just a bit silly though.
This is an actualized response...
I agree with you 100%, but I'd say it's easier than it seems. It does require practice, for sure, but I'd argue that talking like an incel also requires practice. (Lee's assume the fictional guy in the Green text got his practice on 4Chan).
I think the thing is that bro is making a choice; whether that choice is to consciously talk about the things he dislikes in low value females, instead of just himself or what he likes (as you would do in date), or to spend his day on 4Chan, unconsciously practicing and learning how to be more like Andrew Tate.
Either way, the problem is not lack of skill, it's the choice to do nothing or even dig in harder into poor communication skills.
Then comes the lack of appropriate feedback, without judgement, to help them realize that it is them who are turning themselves into "low-value men" if there were to judge themselves by the same measure.
Also, this is just a really negative set of statements. "I DON'T want X, Y, and Z." Even giving anon a pretty big benefit of the doubt and assuming they didn't state it like "No fatties," they aren't really saying what they want in a partner, just a bunch of standards by which they would judge somebody.
The search for a romantic partner should involve more positives than negatives. You should have ideas about what things you like in people and yourself, and what interests and activities that you're passionate about and would like to share with someone. If you start with a laundry list of things that you don't like, that's not just going to be off-putting, it's going to be limiting you to thinking only in those terms, rather than finding something that brings you joy, and finding someone that has that in common with you.
Anon is definitely not into fitness though. Probably a lard ass himself.
I like how you put this. Anon was asked requirements and all he gave were deal-breakers. It comes off as desperate, crass, or both.
Its also fake. I could rewrite the ending.
"Friends GF laughs uncontrollably at my list of dealbreakers, as she's drunk and at a bar, not sober at a coffee shop"
"Friends gf proceeds to go around the bar posing my list to every woman, and eventually also all the men, hysterically laughing the whole time while I try to hide by the jukebox."
That friend? Albert Einstein.
I'll first say that from a social standpoint it makes sense to focus on yourself when asked that. But the person asked "tell me what you look for in a girl". You would have to be pretty damn masterful at thinking on your feet to take that question and immediately flip your answers into I statements. Especially if you're anon and obviously don't get asked things like this a lot.
No kids is a common wish although the reason for it can make or break how fine it is to have.
My guess is that anon is overweight, and the person they were talking to was thinking of friends they had that were overweight and were great people.
Anon betrayed that their preference was a bit delusional and/or didn't understand that it can take work to be in shape and takes it for granted that women should be expected to be fit for him without him having to do anything. That's a pretty sour fart of an opinion.
The no dating apps thing is pretty cringe. And could certainly make you seem like a pariah to most people. It definitely betrays a sense of superiority if it's in your top 3 dating requirements. I feel like anon knowing the word demisexual is slim to none but that would be the best thing you could say.
Actually my guess is that this is fake and anon is just stirring the hate mongering pot.
I also casually declare strangers I meet at a bar for 20 minutes to be great catches and offer up any of my single friends phone numbers. Dont you?
It's always possible the friends were in the same league as OP
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These are reasonable, but he's asking in the wrong place (a pub). Not that its impossible to find someone like that in a pub, but its more difficult. If you want that type of girl, you need to earnestly be both the type of man she wants and at a place where those types of woman are found (churches, charities, college clubs, laid back social gatherings, etc etc). Don't go to those places acting fake or overly pushy tho; that's way worse than being your normal, imperfect self. A lot of churches are chill these days, and pastors know a random dude showing up is likely looking for a wife. Just be honest, and if it gets uncomfortable or you have a bad feeling about the place, just leave. Not telling anyone to find God, just giving ideas.
Ultimately, life happens. You might find someone absolutely perfect for you except for one of your deal breakers... And before long it seems trivial. Seen it happen. So don't be so rigid you miss out on the opportunity of a lifetime if it crops up.
Edit: spelling.
Those not unreasonable preferences
The tinder one is though. Someone being on tinder doesn't tell you anything about that person. Only that they're looking for either a partner or casual sex.
You literally just said it tells you nothing and then listed something it tells you.
Being on tinder doesn't tell anything new given the context of the conversation. Any single girls that anon's friend's gf would consider referring to our apparently-single anon would be interested in one or both of those things whether they were on tinder or not, or they hopefully wouldn't agree to a date.
This is fake but that said...
Meh, Tinder isn't a dating app. It's a hook up app. There are dating apps which are fine, but tinder is a hookup bar, you know the one, where the bar is empty by 12:30 am because everyone has found a friend for the night. Can you find a long term mate? Sure but odds are against you.
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Reasonable preferences stated in the form of red flags are still red flags.
The third one is pretty weird, it's just the default way to meet people now.
The other two are pretty straightforward.
Tinder is the worst possible way to get to meet people, unless you’re at least a 9/10 guy or a woman who just wants to hook up, nothing more. At least that’s been my experience, both using the app and talking to friends who have. Meaningful connections are rare.
It might be a regional thing? I live in a Town known for its Technical University, so most of the people on Tinder are socially awkward and tech literate 18-25 y/os who either don't like going to noisy places like bars, clubs etc. or just prefer texting first before committing time to a date (free time is kind of hard to make as a student here).
My own reason was more on the autistic side, as I do NOT recognize flirting unless it is specifically stated. So having an app where both parties can state "hey, we're talking with romantic intentions here!!" was the best solution ever haha (I met my husband within 30mins of installing the app 🤷)
Hm, maybe. Where I lived, your chances were low if you’re a nerd and/or looking for something serious. Like, most people on tinder were the exact same crowd you‘d also meet in clubs. But it also wasn’t a particularly big town and most people on tinder in my age range were university students from the less nerdy faculties…
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I was writing a wall of text about how millenials trat me cause I have kids and my wife cause "she's obese" got a call and I have not the energy to write it again
Imagine here was a dissenting opinion based on experience...
no girls who are on dating apps like Tinder
But why tho?
A reasonable argument would be because oop sees sex as something special and would like a partner that thinks of it the same way.
In reality, oop probably thinks of woman who are on tinder as worthless sluts and doesn’t want a woman with a higher headcount than him because it bruises his ego.
I too, would be upset if my hypothetical partner had more kills than me. Excuse me, I'm the killing machine here. I'm the one who's body is designed to rip and tear and glide through the air! You're making me look lazy.
How dare u!
(I will almost always take the chance to make fun of the act of using "headcount" or "bodycount" to refer to the number of sexual partners someone has had.)
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I just say "I'll know when I meet her."
Could an average rowboat support her without capsizing?
Probably because she was big, had a kid, and was on tinder 😆
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