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Gavin Newsom said he opposes mandate on mobile operating system developers.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 67 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The guy is so strange. I'll see great decisions from him for months, and then it's like he goes into a dungeon and randomly approves the opposite type of laws for awhile.

Chaotic.

[–] Ledivin 57 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He's a liberal capitalist stooge. All of his decent-to-good policies are social, and virtually every financial or corporate decision is dogshit.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yes. But God forbid anyone realizing someone can be socially left and economically right, or vice versa.

[–] Zorque 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's not that he can't be that, it's that it makes him a tool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, at what point do we stop stating the obvious and focus on what is occulted?

[–] Zorque 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When people realize you can do both.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Apparently not. At any rate, the horse has been dead so long, all that's left are sun-bleached bones.

[–] lath 2 points 3 days ago

Bones are long gone. All you got now is sand.

[–] Anticorp 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't have to be economically left to recognize that what corporations have been doing for 30+ years now is an egregious privacy violation and antithesis to our constitutional ideology.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

I didn't say that.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

He’s always been surrounded by the wealthy and well-connected, and that’s who he listens to.

[–] pdxfed 4 points 3 days ago

When he got caught breaking his state's own Covid restrictions at French Laundry, the fanciest of wait list fancies in Napa wine country, it's all you needed to know.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I mean yeah we've been talking about the issues with capitalism for over 100 years, it excels at keeping things just tolerable enough for the working class that we don't take heads

[–] Anticorp 7 points 3 days ago

Just depends on how big the ~~bribe~~ lobbying effort is.

[–] spankmonkey 68 points 4 days ago (5 children)

But Newsom said he is opposed to the new bill's mandate on operating systems. "I am concerned, however, about placing a mandate on operating system (OS) developers at this time," the governor wrote. "No major mobile OS incorporates an option for an opt-out signal. By contrast, most Internet browsers either include such an option or, if users choose, they can download a plug-in with the same functionality. To ensure the ongoing usability of mobile devices, it's best if design questions are first addressed by developers, rather than by regulators. For this reason, I cannot sign this bill."

Oh fuck off Newsom.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

That sounds a lot like the legislature passed a bill because the people can’t trust companies to do the right thing, and Newsom said “we should trust the companies to do the right thing!”

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What a fucking weasly excuse. Fuck this dude.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It’s also categorical bullshit in terms of technical accuracy.

Source: 15 years as a software engineer

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think he's talking about Do Not Track? That's a signal that's been in web browsers for over a decade now, but because of a lack of legal enforcement has largely been ignored by websites. To my knowledge, there's no equivalent signal in Windows, macOS, or Linux. Though none of that stops individual app developers from putting in a setting into their app's settings/preferences. And heck, the bill only required it to be opt-out, so in reality it would hardly have any impact on their bottom line, thanks to the tyranny of the default.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Not to mention: the government imposes onerous regulations on companies and entire industries all the damn time. Claiming “but it’s harrrrrddddddd :(“ is fucking stupid. This is computer science. Figure it out. We’re not paid as much as we are for our health. It’s because we solve hard problems. It meets the standards with its code or else it gets the hose again.

Source: also worked several years in aerospace; currently working in biotech.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

He’s trying to sound like he knows what he’s talking about in nuanced detail. But his comment makes it very obvious that he has no idea what the fuck he’s talking about.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Here's the extent of the design constraints by the bill:

(b) (1) A business shall not develop or maintain a mobile operating system that does not include a setting that enables a consumer to send an opt-out preference signal to businesses with which the consumer interacts through the mobile operating system.

(2) This subdivision shall become operative six months after the adoption of regulations by the California Privacy Protection Agency that outline the requirements and technical specifications for an opt-out preference signal to be used by a mobile operating system.

(c) The California Privacy Protection Agency may adopt regulations as necessary to implement and administer this section, including, but not limited to, ensuring that the setting described by subdivision (a) is easy for a reasonable person to locate and configure and updating the definitions of “browser” and “mobile operating system” to address changes in technology, data collection, obstacles to implementation, or privacy concerns.

It has to:

  1. exist
  2. be a setting
  3. that people interact with through the operating system
  4. Be reasonably easy to locate and change

idk guys, seems pretty difficult to me /s

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It'd be great if the decision was made by developers, they'd probably implement it since they can benefit from it as well. It's not the developers making these decisions though, it's the companies who have a vested interest in selling your data that are.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

vetoing this is disappointing to say the least and

it should be the other way around;
users should be asked first if they'd like to opt-in first

[–] Anticorp 10 points 3 days ago

Only in the EU, where people matter more than money.

[–] TriflingToad 2 points 3 days ago

my first thought is "hell yeah! it should be opt in" then I opened comments and... shit.

[–] untorquer 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not even opt-in wtf Gavin...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

I’m surprised this asshole has time to veto good bills between his sessions of destroying destitute people’s possessions.

[–] alquicksilver 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I voted for this guy before and thought I'd continue to do so, but the crap he's been pulling recently-ish has just confirmed for me he won't ever get my vote again. What a jagoff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Hopefully a better person wins the primary.

[–] Jayve 2 points 3 days ago

What are the chances the state legislature overrides the veto?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wait, I thought cali was best when it came to consumer rights. This is a strange divergence. I had to re-read the title because I thought surely the state would be on the side of opt'ing in to the sale of user's data.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

They are only pro-consumer when it doesn't evolve Big Tech. They are owned by Big Tech...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because he is the governor? If it goes back to the state legislators and gets a super majority it can become law

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok, i rephrase. Why can the governor veto?

Imagine, if a Kanton could veto in an Abstimmung.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

...because that's the job of the governor. They are the head of the executive branch of the state. You you have the balance of power between the executive, legislative and judicial.

[–] proper 2 points 4 days ago

Newsom said he is opposed to the new bill's mandate on operating systems. "I am concerned, however, about placing a mandate on operating system (OS) developers at this time," the governor wrote. "No major mobile OS incorporates an option for an opt-out signal. By contrast, most Internet browsers either include such an option or, if users choose, they can download a plug-in with the same functionality. To ensure the ongoing usability of mobile devices, it's best if design questions are first addressed by developers, rather than by regulators. For this reason, I cannot sign this bill."