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Why some open world video games of the late 2010s and early 2020s have been considered "Breath of the Wild clones"?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago

It would help to answer your questions if you gave some examples of what you're talking about. Which games did you have in mind?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is called "begging the question". You're asking why something is true when you haven't even established if that thing is true.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

While I'm not aware of any titles that I would refer to as "clones", the question isn't far-fetched:

Multiple games have since cited Breath of the Wild as an influence. These include Genshin Impact, Ghost of Tsushima, Immortals Fenyx Rising, Halo Infinite, Elden Ring, Pokémon Legends: Arceus, and Horizon Forbidden West.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Breath_of_the_Wild#Legacy

Some indie titles I'd throw in, that clearly took inspiration:

  • A Short Hike
  • Lil Gator Game
  • Tchia
[–] TheMinions 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The only one that I know that really gets compared to BoTW is Genshin Impact.

Which, it kind of is in terms of exploration. They even added Korok seeds in their 3.0 update.

The big bad enemies are also ancient robots that can be terrifying when you’re low level too.

This game came out the tail end of 2020. It also has a very similar color palette to BotW in some areas. Especially the main “Castle Town” zone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I would say the defining characteristic that sets Breath of the Wild apart from its contemporaries is its "chemistry engine", as they call it. That meticulously programmed system of interactions where absolutely everything in the world affects everything else in ways that are intuitive. Wooden objects burn, lightning strikes metal things, fire will melt ice, electrified objects will conduct through metal and water, etc. That, in tandem with its cel-shaded artstyle, minimalist piano flourish soundtrack, and general lonely, somber vibe in a mechanically lush but socially empty world. That's the identity of BotW.

I haven't played Genshin Impact so I don't know how deep the similarities are. It sure superficially resembles BotW if you squint and look at it from a distance. Big open world, vibrant cel-shaded graphics, live in-overworld combat, you can climb walls and soar with glider physics, they got the high fantasy plus inexplicably advanced magitech thing going on... definitely some marks on the bingo card, but not really things particularly unique to BotW, either. I have no idea how much Genshin Impact actually resembles BotW up close.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I would say the defining characteristic that sets Breath of the Wild apart from its contemporaries is its "chemistry engine", as they call it.

It's traversal. The interactions were cool, but mostly about the puzzles.

What BOTW changed was how exploration works. You see a landmark in the distance, start moving towards it, and figure out how to get there. There's nothing you see that isn't part of the traversal system. There are no invisible walls. Some things are absurdly high to climb, some things are slippery, etc, but everything you struggle to traverse is clearly a product of the systems the game uses and makes sense.

(The problem was none of that exploration got you anywhere interesting, but the core element of "everything you see is a destination" is the thing about BOTW that was groundbreaking.)

[–] emb 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I feel like "See that mountain? You can go there." was already a cliche when the game came out. [Though I have no citation to prove it.]

BotW really delivered on it though, with everything being climbable as the rule rather than the exception.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

There have been games that showed hints of stuff you could get to, but I think BOTW was the first major open world game that actually universally followed that rule and didn't have invisible walls all over the place.

Like Skyrim there was a lot you could "climb" by abusing the mechanics and spamming jumps until you got lucky, and everything existed in that sense. But it was glitches, not part of the mechanics. BOTW having points of interest almost entirely discovered visually was unique.

[–] davidgro 1 points 3 months ago

Genshin has a 7 elements system that partially does what you describe: Wood (or anything made of or affected by dendro) burns when exposed to fire (pyro), fire melts ice (cryo) and vaporizes water (hydro), water conducts (well, causes a damage reaction with) electricity (electro), etc. The outliers are stone (geo) which makes forcefield shields with some of the other elements, and air (anemo) which swirls up and spreads and reacts together some of the other elements.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia 8 points 3 months ago

Oddly specific question

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Breath of the Wild took a somewhat novel approach to open-world in that it filled the game world with lots of interesting landmarks, then gave you lots of movement options and just let you explore on your own.

In particular, because Nintendo took a risk and introduced this novel concept into an established series, it had a big audience and enough budget to really show off that this concept works.

That's why lots of gamedevs took inspiration and steered their open-world games into similar directions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I thought this was a clickbait article

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Botw has a minimal graphic style and a lot of games tried to copy the look, there are plenty of rpg games like immortals fenix rising that feel like clones

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

More random questions: "why does every game is considered a doom clone?"