Jet Fuel : science

[+] [email protected] 167 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

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[–] EleventhHour 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The reason I absolutely believe this to be true? Because I’ve used this on my little brothers since we were kids. I’m 45.

It’s called “reverse psychology.”

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[–] overcast5348 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How are China's stringent lockdowns explained in this conspiracy theory? Also, where do I sign up as a member?

[+] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

A repressive regime that becomes less repressive during a global pandemic is highly suspicious. Gotta keep up appearances.

[–] overcast5348 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Okay, I'm convinced. 😂

[+] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

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[–] IndiBrony 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

I like you.

Like, this is what conspiracy should be - actually somewhat believable - and not dumb shit like flat earth.

I always held that 9/11 was dubious. Not an "inside job" per se, but definitely a case of "we're gonna turn our backs for just a second, and you terrorists better not do something silly while we're not looking!"

One of the biggest things that will always stick out to me: the WMDs. They were adamant Iraq had them. They said they had actual evidence. None of it was true. It all came across as an excuse for ol' George to go in and try to finish what daddy started in '91.

Just to be clear as well, I think other conspiracies such as the controlled demolition of the towers and the fake plane at the pentagon are bullshit. I don't have my tinfoil hat on that tightly.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Half-done virus got out per accident?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can confirm this is true because the same was true for my mum. She was against the COVID vaccine, but then she started believing that the theories were started by the Chinese government to target people who don't listen to the authorities.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The one child policy has been abolished a good while before covid.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't change the distribution of demographics by itself. Even assuming the birth rate skyrocketed after the nixing of the one child policy, it takes ~20 years before those people are working age.

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[–] coffee_whatever 110 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Moon landing was fake!!!" "You still believe the moon is real?"

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This was highly effective when I used it in real life.

The conspiracy theorist got real mad demanding I name sources, I kept telling him to find it on the internet with fake search terms.

[–] coffee_whatever 24 points 2 months ago

I would have screamed "do your own research!" before just leaving.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

congress is full of marxist-leninist-pelosi-ists who intentionally cause inflation to distract us from finding obama's birth certificate! google "MLP inflation" if yu don't believe me!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I once got on the topic of the moon lending with a creationist co-worker. He said he wasn't sure, but that if it happened we should be able to see it from satellite pictures. So I said "yeah you can", pulled it up, and zoomed in on a landing site. You couldn't see footprints or anything, but you could see the shadow of the flag next to clearly man-made debris

I showed him exactly what he agreed would be proof in a difficult to fake form, and it just temporarily nudged the needle for him

Now, I fight conspiracies with the opposite conspiracies.

Earth is a 4D hypersphere, the earth isn't hollow, Agatha is just another part of the surface reached by holes

The elites are hiding all the best vaccines, like the ones that cure cancer

[–] coffee_whatever 5 points 2 months ago

I recently watched "Brief history of the Wrong Earths" by Hardcore Sci-Fi, not many of these are well known so you could have so much more ammunition for fooling around like that with people.

"flat earth? Nah, it's expanding bro! Oh wait actually it's 9 hollow earths one in another!"

[–] [email protected] 90 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My best friend has an unnatural talent for this sort of thing and really enjoys toying with conspiracy theory nuts.

When folks start talking about crazy shit, it makes me very anxious and I tend to shut down. Not my buddy. He eggs them on, encourages it, and gets them to say things or agree with things that are even more outlandish than where they conversation started. Things will start at "China invented covid to kill off old people" and somehow end up at "Hillary Clinton paid to have her chromosomes added to the covid vaccines so that DNA evidence can no longer be used against her in the courts".

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago

I love this method and employ it at bars. It's like gonzo conversationalism.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Wasn't that somewhat how Q-anon started?

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[–] kromem 67 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I fondly remember reading a comment in /r/conspiracy on a post claiming a geologic seismic weapon brought down the towers.

It just tore into the claims, citing all the reasons this was preposterous bordering on batshit crazy.

And then it said "and your theory doesn't address the thermite residue" going on to reiterate their wild theory.

Was very much a "don't name your gods" moment that summed up the sub - a lot of people in agreement that the truth was out there, but bitterly divided as to what it might actually be.

As long as they only focused on generic memes of "do your own research" and "you aren't being told the truth" they were all on the same page. But as soon as they started naming their own truths, it was every theorist for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

a lot of people in agreement that the truth was out there, but bitterly divided as to what it might actually be.

This has been my take.

They're not there for the truth. They're there for validation.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's ego powered with insecurity jetfuel, still can't melt steel beams tho.^joke^

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29081831/

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I once tried to get a conspiracy theory going that Flat Earth was a fake conspiracy started by the government to cover up the real conspiracy - that the moon is flat. That's why we only ever see one side of it and why we were able to land on it. It didn't take lol.

[–] atocci 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I just need people to know that they didn't fake the moon landing, that really happened. They faked the moon. It didn't exist prior to the 1960s when it was created by the US government in order to move the goalposts in the space race.

The insider knowledge that there would soon be a moon to land on gave NASA the head start they needed on the Apollo program to finally beat the Soviets, who were thoroughly blindsided by the sudden appearance of the moon.

[–] Agent641 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is bullshit. What we see as the moon is actually the earth, after the reptillians ruined it. What we live on is actually a domed space station orbiting the moon-earth.

We didnt go to the moon, we went back to the moon.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

why we were able to land on it.

This is why you failed. Everyone knows the moon landing was fake and directed by Kubrick.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but you know how Kubrick was. He made them film on location.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago

Dank memes can't melt steel beams.

7/11 was a part time job.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Jet fuel indeed doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel. Forging temperature, OTOH, no issue.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You don't understand, steel is either solid or melted. No in-between. No idea what you mean by forging temperature, swords for example are forged by pouring liquid steel to a form, it's in so many movies!

/s obviously.

[–] BugleFingers 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I know the /s but I also want to introduce you to amorphous solids! (Because I like them so now you get to read this lol) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorphous_solid

Which is essentially a "solid" structure without a proper crystalline structure. This will cause it to move as a liquid at incredibly slow speeds. Such a glass for instance. Extremely old historical glass can be seen to be thicker at the bottom than the top. Not because it was built this way, but because over hundreds of years it has "poured" down [1].

*This is a simplified explanation and therefore may not be acutely accurate for sake of simplicity

TL;DR Some solid stuff is really just super slow liquids. I.E. Glass

[1]: See link in comment reply. Glass is an amorphous solid but sources say that glass pane construction is the cause of thicker bottoms rather than it's movement over time.

[–] quinkin 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was in fact built that way

[–] BugleFingers 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

TIL, I did a project on this 10 or so years ago, so either I misremembered or new information came to light

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

When I started reading these comments I didn't expect them to be full of actual, unironic conspiracy theories. 🤔

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dinosaurs are a lie created by the wizards to hide the existence of dragons.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The wizards hunted dragons to extinction because their wings made good spell components and they want to dodge responsibility for it.

Its ugly, but it's true.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jet fuel doesn't need extra tanks of mind control agent, they're already using leaded fuel

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

lead is in avgas for prop planes, not jet fuel.

*I guess turboprops also use jet fuel so I should have said small GA planes but you get the point.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I like to just be the crazier one. Flat earth? You still believe in an earth, you silly goose egg.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm part of the no-moon society. Flat earth?! How about the fact that the moon is fake!?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The sun revolves around the earth just like the moon.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Every conspiracy theory should have some way to bet on it.

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[–] Aceticon 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Lies!

Everybody knows that the terrorists on the planes aimed them at the floor containing the Illuminati outpost and it was the fire from the cooling liquid for the supercomputers used to mind control everybody in New York that melted the support steel structure.

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