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[–] IndiBrony 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I like you.

Like, this is what conspiracy should be - actually somewhat believable - and not dumb shit like flat earth.

I always held that 9/11 was dubious. Not an "inside job" per se, but definitely a case of "we're gonna turn our backs for just a second, and you terrorists better not do something silly while we're not looking!"

One of the biggest things that will always stick out to me: the WMDs. They were adamant Iraq had them. They said they had actual evidence. None of it was true. It all came across as an excuse for ol' George to go in and try to finish what daddy started in '91.

Just to be clear as well, I think other conspiracies such as the controlled demolition of the towers and the fake plane at the pentagon are bullshit. I don't have my tinfoil hat on that tightly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I always held that 9/11 was dubious. Not an "inside job" per se, but definitely a case of "we're gonna turn our backs for just a second, and you terrorists better not do something silly while we're not looking!"

But why? What they won letting that happen?

[–] SuperIce 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The Patriot Act gives the government practically unlimited permission to spy on all citizens. It was created and passed as a result of 9/11.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Created before 9/11

[–] SuperIce 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was introduced on October 23rd 2001 in direct response to the 9/11 attack and signed into law on 26th.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995 had many of its rejected proposals recycled as the USAPATRIOT Act of 2001

[–] IndiBrony 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't doubt that many proposals were made well before 9/11, but that attack certainly proved a catalyst in getting them approved.

Basically: we want to control citizens > citizens don't want to be controlled > create a scenario in which they want to be controlled > control citizens

Might take a few years between implementation and the desired result, but politics is always a slow march towards authoritarianism.

Also, the fact it was labelled as the counter terrorism act. Not much call for a counter terrorism act of there isn't much terrorism happening. No better way to say "we need this" than an actual terrorist attack happening.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 1 points 3 months ago

other conspiracies such as the controlled demolition of the towers

Maybe not WTC 1 or 2 but WTC 7 looks exactly like a controlled demolition.