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Asked Thursday by the judge if she knew any of the accused, Gisèle said she recognised only one.

“He was our neighbour. He came over to check our bikes. I used to see him at the bakery. He was always polite. I had no idea he was coming to rape me.”

Gisèle was then reminded by the judge that in order to respect the presumption of innocence, it had been agreed in court not to use the word rape but “sex scene”.

She replied: “I just think they should recognise the facts. When I think of what they have done I am overcome with disgust. They should at least have the responsibility to recognise what they did.”

After the truth emerged, Gisèle found that she was carrying four sexually-transmitted diseases.

“I have had no sympathy from any of the accused. One who was HIV-positive came six times. Not once did my husband express any concern about my health,” she said.

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[–] citrusface 67 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sex scene? What the fuck? It's fucking RAPE.

[–] foggy 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A sex scene implies consent. An unconscious person cannot consent.

[–] Cosmonauticus 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While I agree the presumption of innocence should always be upheld in court. I'd argue saying the alleged rape would be better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

No, it's not better to make a suspected victim use words that revictimizes them.

Any legal system that isn't a joke understands that not everyone should be held to the same standard of professionalist ass-covering.

[–] JustARaccoon 1 points 1 month ago

It's because France doesn't recognise rape on a consent basis, it does so based on the matter of forceful penetration, i.e: the person needs to resist it. At least that's what I read in a different article. It's fucked up.

[–] carmanut 51 points 2 months ago

What the fuck

[–] sachamato 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This story gets me the chills. Very sad.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just to add some more fuel to the shit filled dumpster fire, they found a lot of nude pictures of his daughter asleep on the guy's hard drive. She is worried the same thing happened to her because she woke up one time in underwear that were not hers.

[–] whostosay 26 points 2 months ago

Just when you think humanity cannot get any lower, surprise surprise

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What in the ever loving star spangled fuck? Right to jail...

[–] CoffeeJunkie 2 points 1 month ago

6 feet under the jail.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

what the FUCK is wrong with people

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

We used to have more violent responses to people, which were then supplanted by a legal system that reduced violence, but offered almost no alternative solutions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

The legal system's proposed solutions to violence are just more violence in a lot of places

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

After the truth emerged, Gisèle found that she was carrying four sexually-transmitted diseases.

“I have had no sympathy from any of the accused. One who was HIV-positive came six times. Not once did my husband express any concern about my health,” she said.

Holy shit. I didn't think this could get worse. It just got worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I'll be honest dude, you should have understood that was a given.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I bet that guy thought it was weird that someone considered this abuse. Probably considered the someone weird, too.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

One of the rapists did not consider it abuse because they did not believe in marital rape.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

You are spot on. And just because something isn't considered abusive by law doesn't make it "not abuse "

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Which is a pretty fucking weird take even by that standard.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Somehow, the root of this is religion. Inevitably.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateAChristian/comments/xhc2q5/the_bible_justifies_and_commands_marital_rape/

https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/109be1r/its_not_talked_about_enough_evangelicals_and/

Something tells me you could have found a lot more reasoning behind the self evident statement for even more religions if you had stopped to consider it for any time at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don't understand how anything tells us religion caused, directly or indirectly, this particular case ? can you clarify ?