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[–] Bunnylux 101 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I really wish people online would stop telling me what fucking words to use

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But then what would they superciliously lecture you on to feel like they made a difference from their tiny insignificant corner of the world?

[–] Bunnylux 4 points 4 months ago

Idk like fish rights maybe

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think a lot of people misread intent. No one is policing your conversations in your living room, but if you're an author (of any medium of art) your work necessarily interfaces with an audience (arguably you can create art without anyone else ever seeing it, let's take that as read) — if you're attempting to communicate with an audience its naive to think they won't have opinions on it, or that it can't be improved.

I like to imagine if you said this to James Joyce, or Georges Perec, Marcel Proust, William Shakespeare, Truman Capote, Samuel Beckett (or other authors known for being exacting) ... They could get pissy about it sure, but they could also say "What an excellent point, I could be way more specific, accurate and poetic in my prose."

While you are absolutely entitled to your opinion, do you not think it's a fruitful line of enquiry in terms of literary criticism and dramaturgy, similar to how using "nice" as every adjective is considered unimaginative?

[–] Bunnylux 2 points 4 months ago

Also like not the same at all. "nice" is dumb to use in writing because it's a boring word. "Blind" is not a boring word, they're just offended by it

[–] Bunnylux 1 points 4 months ago

Disagree. Art should be even more provocative

[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 months ago (3 children)

But blind isn’t just a visual impairment?

It’s just a word that has two meanings, so stop trying to be offended about someone using the other meaning.

People just trying to be offended for the sake of it.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Stop calling that thing in your window a blind you sightist, that's a telescoping sun repeller

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Stop calling that thing you pay in poker for sitting left of the dealer a "blind," that's a forced bet.

[–] Modva 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Blind fury. Blind to someone's faults, blinded by love. Poker blinds. Types of medical trials. Venetian blinds.

Getting angry at other well-established uses of words seems like fun.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Hunting blinds. Blind baking a pie crust. Blind devotion. Blinded by the light. Cut loose like a deuce, another runner in the night. Wait, what were we talking about again?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I recall John Barnes, an English footballer, having a hissy fit because some sports broadcaster had referred to a stadium crush as 'a black day for football'. John Barnes said it was yet another example of a racist connotation of the word. Nope, John, it's just another meaning, you word hogger.

[–] okamiueru 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

After outcries from a bunch of attention deprived individuals with, I'm sure, little melanin, GitHub changed their naming convention of the master branch from master to main. Because apparently, some haven't mastered the English Language, and definitely don't have a master's degree in etymology. Which is fine, maybe they studied music and became a maestro. Maybe they became a master craftsman instead, or ended up as a teacher, and eventually headmaster. Who knows? Anyways, where was I? Ah yes, people are fucking morons.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Tbf, in technology and IT the term "master" is often paired with "slave", so the connection is a lot more reasonable.

[–] okamiueru 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Sure. But, people still know what the words mean, right? You don't get offended by all the racism in Uncle Tom's cabin, and want to ban the book, right? You wouldn't get offended if someone cosplayed as a black elf, would you?

Or, maybe you would. People are, after all, fucking morons. Myself included. I don't really care if I have to call a branch main or master, just so that's clear. But it's 100% a stupid reason for the change, and anyone who thinks that matters in any way, I'll think less of, and probably avoid in social settings.

[–] TunaCowboy 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

This is such a tired argument. The terminology never bothered most people, that was part of the problem. As communities found that it was in fact hurtful to some, we listened, learned from their perspective, and adopted more accurate terms.

The world didn't end, everything went on working as it had before, and the only real fallout were self-centered complaints like yours. Sure, there are some performative COC assholes running around, but there are a lot of legitimate criticisms that affect people that you may not recognize or even understand.

You can still name your branches whatever the fuck you want, you can set your own defaults, you can leave them in your documentation, existing repositories were unaffected - this complaint is just a self tell that you likely suck to work with.

individuals with, I'm sure, little melanin

Yeah, ok bud, go fuck yourself.

[–] okamiueru 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Naah, you see. There is a different point of view that you aren't considering. If you cannot correctly identify racism, all you're doing is making noise. Which is perfect, if you'd rather quibble over bullshit and ban episodes of Community, while systemic racism is everywhere in the US.

Also, of course it didn't bother anyone, since it had fuck all to do with racism. That's kinda my point. Racism is a very real thing, and a very real problem. So people who want to make a fuss about these things can go fuck off and see if they can't figure out what racism actually is.

PS: I'm also not bothered in the slightest if I name the branch main or master. I'm not sure if you'll believe that. What I do take offense is the failure to identify that this in fact, has nothing to do with racism.

PPS: Feel free to downvote me and move on. I'm annoyed that I brought it up.

individuals with, I’m sure, little melanin

Yeah, ok bud, go fuck yourself.

Why's that? Why did you take offense at that in particular? Surely you're not a white dude who's been offended on behalf of someone else on this very topic, right? It would be somewhat amusing in this otherwise pointless endeavour. How dare I belittle the importance of this "good deed" that made you feel good about "doing something"? Do you have to do something else now? Sheesh. Wasn't that enough?

[–] adam_y 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Will people please stop using lazy as a synonym for bad writing?

There are so many reasons why someone might be bad at writing and many of them are far from "lazy".

If there's in thing about us lazy folk, it is being able to write as concisely as possible to conserve energy.

Not only is the use of "lazy" rude it is uninformed.

And will people please stop using "uninformed" as a synonym for people who aren't very smart.

There are so many reasons why...

[–] adam_y 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, some folks don't get sarcasm, huh?

[–] Skasi 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'd say blind and ignorant have very different meanings.

Being blind to something means you are unable to register it, you might be searching for it but can't find it even though it's right in front of you, it's a sensory thing. Even being blind to social cues is a sort of sensory thing.

Being ignorant means you can see it but, perhaps due to a lack of open mindedness, decide that it is something else or assign incorrect characteristics to it even though eg measurements have shown different things. This could be due to a lack of trust, an agenda, or something else entirely.

Both of them make it difficult for you to learn the truth, but the causes and problems you experience are different.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

don't worry, "ignorant" will become an ableist term too, soon enough

[–] systemglitch 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Or maybe stop choosing to be offended by language that people use for the sake of clarity and understanding. And good luck catching the ball I threw at your face blind person.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Fact-Mistaken.

Fact-Counterfactual, even.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Fact-naive? Just use the fact-glaive!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Blindness, as I witness it, is not a lazy word for ignorance. It is used when someone did not inform themselves (enough). This could have been out of naïveté or out of malice, but also because one simply didn't know better. I think "blind" in this case is very accurate.

[–] voracitude 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Blindness, as I witness it,

I think I know why you didn't want to use "see" here, and I don't think it worked as well as you hoped 😂

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Thanks for appreciating my attempt ^^ I'll leave it for others to have a giggle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That really depends on which definition you're using, there are a lot of them, and figuring out which one it is depends on context. "Ignorance" only fits for one of those definitions, and it's not a direct replacement in every sense of that meaning.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

We don't see sound in my household

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have never seen blindness used as a synonym for ignorance.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How can you be blind to this common practice?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Idk, but I keep being blindsided by it.