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Thursday is a reminder that the weekend is just around the corner. Time to compare beer prices in Europe!

Who would you like to drink your next beer with? And where?

The beer prices shown here refer to local draught 0.5 litre beer in a restaurant.

Source: Numbeo - as of August 2024

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how this compares to how much time a beer costs vs the minimum / median wage for a country

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

In Nordics it is mainly taxation that brings the price up, and also the state controlled monopoly with alcohol. I don't think wages are that much higher, except Norway.

[–] mumblerfish 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The monopoly may contribute to the price in resturants, but for the monopoly store, no. In Sweden you can get a can of 0.5l beer for like 2€ in the store.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Has that changed? I thought that stores only sell light beer and proper beers you need to go to systembolaget?

[–] mumblerfish 2 points 3 months ago

It has not changed. That is why I said "the monopoly store", because I did not know if you were aware of systembolaget. The light beers at normal stores are still very expensive.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Ruski here.

This is still hella expensive. 150 rubles for half a liter of beer is around double (maybe 1.5x for some brands) what they cost in probably most shops, with some being cheaper in alcohol-centered shops.

Some actually imported stuff goes for that price and tastes considerably better.

There's also domestic beer and the like for around the same price (some cheaper, some more expensive) that tastes better, too.

And all in all, considering the incomes and purchasing power, that 1.6 EUR average in restaurants and stuff sure doesn't feel good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just to say it, but in most of the EU a beer in a shop will cost about as much as in Russia. Scandinavia is more expensive due to taxes, but 1.6EUR is fairly normal for a liter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

In Germany, you can get a cheap beer a lot cheaper in a store though:

Sternburg Export 0.5L bottle β€” 69ct

Of course:

  • This is a very cheap beer. But the average German mass-market brand is at around 1€/0.5L too (Jever, Krombacher, Becks, Radeberger are the ones I checked).
  • Sternburg used to be a lot cheaper, I remember it being sold around the 30ct price point a couple of years back.
  • There is a deposit on bottles/cans but of course that will be returned when you return the bottle.
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
  • by drinking Sterni, you show the people surrounding you, that you are a decent fellow, with whom one can discuss the various ways capitalism makes the world worse
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

...all while supporting a faceless corporation!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But but it’s cheap and it even has a star!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

It tastes cheap too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It can be even Cheaper. NΓΆrten Hardenberg costs even less:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Oettinger is even cheaper than that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Free diarrhea included!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Originally, I wanted to post a three-way comparison of Sternburg/Oettinger/0,5 but the specific Rewe supermarket I was looking at apparently doesn't stock either of the other two brands.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

0,5 is pretty good compared to the other two, actually.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That bottle has 0.5l, so basic maths it is 1.38€ for a liter of beer.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Slava Ukraini!

That said, I really hope you will get rid of your store brand hitler soon, for your own sake as well

[–] RichieRich 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Letβ€˜s go to Czechia πŸ‡¨πŸ‡Ώ! The beer is cheap and is very tasty πŸ˜‹!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I loved drinking in Czechia. Being from America I'm used to tipping. I remember a beer with a nice tip was one coin thanks to your currency. There's something about buying a big handled mug of beer with one big coin smacked on the bar that feel fucking medieval.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I haven't seen any good beer here cheaper than ~3 euro in the last few years tbh. I'm afraid we're no longer the famous European cheap booze county...

[–] jqubed 20 points 3 months ago (6 children)

It says this price is in restaurants; I assume Europe is like North America where the price for a single drink in a restaurant is much higher than at a store, especially if I were to buy a 6 pack in a store?

[–] lunarul 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's for draught beer, not bottled or canned

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

In Russia it's less than $1 per average 0,5 beer but with a restaurant's mark-up it's $1-3 even if they are the same (like they bring the same bottle sometimes), so the graph checks out I guess. Although, these mentioned prices are even more pointless if you consider how they relate to the average income in said countries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

And this is the price in a big city restaurant. Go to any small town establishment and it will be much cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I could buy a single can of Jupiler at a grocery store for about 80cents in Amsterdam 7 years ago. Noy sure what the price is now, but that's cheaper than an individual soda at an American grocery store

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

And Jupiler is still a somewhat decent beer as far as standard lager goes, you can also get the "hobo" beers with higher alcohol content and even cheaper by the can.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

France: expensive and leaves a bad aftertaste πŸ˜…

More seriously though, this also needs to take different tax levels specifically on alcohol into account.

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[–] moistclump 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wanna see this as % of minimum wage

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not all countries have a minimum wage

[–] moistclump 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Sounds good.

Just one more thing: Median gross wage.

Because what is gross and what is net also varies a lot. For example, in France, taxes and health insurance are deducted from gross, but in Switzerland they're not. So comparing net salaries between FR and CH would create the incorrect impression that they are stupidly higher in CH.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

What's weird in CZ is that at that price you can get craft beer in small brewerys. Big brewerys raised prices after covid and small brewerys pay half tax.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Fuck yeah, time to move to Ukraine... Oh wait 😒

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So Iceland is not a thing to whoever made this? Though Iceland would probably need an animated blinking red colour for the price there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You guys always mess with nice map layouts. Can't you see that the legend also needs space? Maybe move that tiny island of yours a bit to make space for more important stuff?

[–] Voyajer 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Drop it on the Mediterranean like how Alaska gets to chill next to Hawaii on US maps

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

The French and Spanish overseas enclaves need space too!

[–] Fuckswearwords 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Belgium's, quite a bit off. I'd frequent the hell out of a place that would sell beer that cheap. Most places sell 0.5l's for around €6 nowadays. The lowest price store bought is ridiculous here though. It's around 90 cents per liter. Most people have some prejudice around it because of the price but it's actually a very good beer. Carapils I β™₯️ you!!!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Carapils is love. It's the best beer for festivals <3

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[–] DrCake 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I imagine Wetherspoons in the UK are doing a huge job keeping the average that low

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[–] Agility0971 3 points 3 months ago

I just bought 2 Peroni Nastro for 6.49€ in the local store. Tastes 10% beer and 90% taxes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What the hell is wrong with Norway?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Taxation. They don't want people to drink a lot.

[–] Nuke_the_whales 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Right? I'm Canadian and That's like $12 a beer, that's absurd. Here it's like $6 and I thought that was high

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