Who will be the first people here to say she’s not progressive enough to vote for if the republicans like her.
It probably won’t be someone who hated Biden until two weeks ago.
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Hated Biden 2 weeks ago, hated Biden 4 years ago.
Still voted for him.
She's not progressive, she is, at best, a sheep dog candidate attempting to herd the unruly progressives who have the audacity to think America should actually do some of the shit we should have done 50 years ago.
Still voting for her. Still gonna do everything in my extremely limited power to get others to vote for her. Electoral politics is never going to be the thing that gets us the changes we want, and pretending so isn't doing us any favors. The real work takes place between elections. Right now is the time to do everything we can to make sure we survive long enough to do the other, in my opinion, more important work. We need to survive, and as completely fucked as it is, Harris is our best chance at survival right now. Is she going to get us medicare for all? Absolutely not, regardless of what she said in 2020. Is she going to fix the climate, or defeat fascism in America? No. Why? Because she exists in the context of all that came before her, and a big portion of that context is neoliberal capitulation to the right wing, and a ratcheting of the democratic party ever further right. Hell, if she were left enough to make Bernie Sanders look like Donald Trump she still wouldn't, and couldn't, do those things. Those kinds of things require massive public support in the forms of a politically active, willing to protest and burn shit down french style populace. We aren't going to get a truly progressive president until AFTER progressives have been so overwhelmingly large in number that we literally cannot be ignored, much like the Tea Party and MAGA. Sadly, if that ever happens, America will probably have to invade America to remind us our American values.
This is the way to do it.
Read it, all the leftists that refuse to vote or vote 3rd party in protest.
We're never going to get a progressive President. There's barely enough active votes to get someone central-left. But it shouldn't matter, because the President was never meant to be the larger focus of power. We are building a progressive representation slowly where it does matter, in the House. Now maybe if we can get a better House representation by expanding it (the amount of citizens per rep is far too high in many places) and getting even more change there...
Pretty much any ~~Foreign Agent~~ totally normal ML Leftist.
H h h however Harris harmful.
Many people on the right have had enough of trump. They want a democracy.
Man, I hope you're right, but that's not how it seems in my state. Trump is guaranteed to win here (I'm still going to vote, no matter how hopeless it feels), and all I see are Tump flags and Let's Go Brandon stickers. The self-destructionnis real. I hope people on the right in other states are sick of him enough to swing places like PA, MI, etc. But it gets pretty lonely as a progressive down here in the south.
The dumbest people are also the loudest. You don't see sane Republicans because they're not the ones plastering MAGA everywhere. Same reason you don't see Biden/Harris stuff plastered on every available surface.
I'm in Ohio, my street when I moved in had dozens of trump flags flying. Literally couldn't stand on my front porch and not see a house without a trump flag. Now there's only one.
Better late than never.
Just keep in mind it took a credible threat to cheetolini's win in order to embolden these repugnicans to step forward.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate it, but this should have happened in 2016.
I respect those Republicans, because they don't want their party to have the overtones of a personality cult with Trump. As for his ideologies and policies, that's another matter entirely.
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