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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Is there a non-AI model?

I don’t want to pay money and watts for silicon I won’t use

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It's the kind of thing that in a few years you'll be glad to have because some tasks will be offloaded from the GPU to the NPU, one I can think of is the background blur in video conferencing software or microphone noise suppression

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

GPUs are already really good at those, and GPUs are not a fad.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

GPUs are already good at those things. But NPUs can be better at those things - and probably more energy efficient too - given optimized domain-specific models to work with.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cpus are already good enough for terminal display, why would I want a GPU? ;)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This but unironically. I'm obsessed with off-grid, low power processing. I don't want a stupid fucking NPU I won't need nor use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Then don't get one? I don't use tampons bit I don't feel the need to yell about not buying them

[–] pycorax 3 points 3 months ago

That's still something that works more than good enough without the use of an NPU. We'll see if better use cases come out in future but I'd still prefer that power and die area go to raw CPU processing power.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

You're likely already paying for silicon you don't use. Take AVX512 instructions (or other more exotic instructions) for example, or unused PCIe lanes, certain encoders on your GPU etc.

Also, people thinking they have no use for an NPU are almost certainly already using them, for example when taking a photo with their phone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The closest thing is probably the 7840HS, 7940HS or the U variants (same thing at a lower TDP so slightly slower). The 8945HS, 8845HS, etc. are very similar but with a better NPU, which you won't want to pay for (and which still doesn't quite meet Copilot specs), so the 7xxx ones are better value. The performance of the AI 300 looks very similar to the 7940HS. Power efficiency may be better in the new one though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

It's actually extremely power efficient.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

For a second I thought that was Doom in the thumbnail.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I know they gotta do this to remain competitive and not concede that entire market subsection, but this is just one more product I won't be buying.

Until AI can build me a custom wooden desk or mow my lawn (there's already robots that do that), it's just a novelty.

[–] mrddu3at2 12 points 4 months ago

This article is just more like about benchmarks of Ryzen AI 300 vs Snapdragon X Elite vs Intel Ultra, not more than that.

[–] Bell 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Will there be anything left to run it on in Windows 11 that isn't ruined with ads and bloat?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The performance looks surprisingly close to the older 7940HS. Both look good. Shame they didn't do a battery comparison between these two. The 7940HS doesn't meet the Copilot requirements in it's NPU, but I bet must people don't care about that.