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[–] BatrickPateman 44 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why wait with the non-voting, Trump supporters? Start not voting for him this election!

[–] DrSleepless 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The new byline from republicans when you bring up democracy is to start an argument that this country isn’t a democracy, it’s a republic. Never actually addressing shit like this.

[–] Zorque 8 points 5 months ago

I remember when that point was brought up as a criticism, not a positive trait.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

When they try to pigeonhole the complex governing system of this country into a single term, it's showing they don't even know what they're talking about, they're just being contrarian.

[–] Anticorp 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

A republic is a form of democracy. The USA is a democratic republic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Being pedantic to avoid answering a question doesn’t mean you have a good answer to the question.

[–] Anticorp 1 points 5 months ago

Did you ask a question?

[–] paddirn 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This should be a disqualification of his candidacy. If you’re openly saying that you’re going to end democracy, you shouldn’t get to participate in the democratic process. Granted, it’ll just make the next person not say it out loud, but still, democracy should only be for people who want to participate.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Democracy is as much a matter of the political culture as it is a matter of the political rules.

In a society with a democratic culture, saying you want to end democracy already is a de facto disqualification - only a handful of people in a democracy would vote for such a candidate. The problem the US has is that 40% or so of the electorate appear to be culturally hostile to democracy. They will vote fascist regardless, they view elections as only having value to the extent that they're a mechanism to elect their candidates and enact their policies, and they can't fathom the legitimacy of any election that results in their side losing.

[–] Anticorp 3 points 5 months ago

So should attempting to overthrow the government with an attempted coup, but here we are...

[–] teft 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You could play that clip of him saying "I'm not a christian" and they will still think he is their chosen one.

[–] geekworking 7 points 5 months ago

Christian excuse: Jesus technically wasn't a Christian either.

[–] expatriado 12 points 5 months ago

they don't have the votes to turn the US into a Christian Theocracy, democracy is an impediment

[–] ceenote 10 points 5 months ago

Surely, across the millions of people who support him, there's at least 5 or 6 who heard that and were like, "wait a sec..."

Sadly there were probably also 5 or 6 who heard that and were like, "No more annoying voting? Hell yeah, brother, I'm on the Trump train now!"

[–] TropicalDingdong 8 points 5 months ago

He should tell them they don't have to vote now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

at this rate it's only a matter of time before he says something directly treasonous and gets picked up by the FBI before the election

[–] ceenote 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I remember when I thought the law applied to Trump...

[–] Anticorp 1 points 5 months ago

When was that? It has never applied to him in his entire pathetic life.

[–] davidagain 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Something more treasonous than armed insurrection at the Capitol to prevent the transfer of power away from Donald Trump?

His lawyers argued that he should be so much above the law that he could order a political assassination of another American and face no consequences, and he won that case and the Supreme Court said that his official acts were immune from prosecution.

Here he's saying out loud that voting will be unnecessary in the future. The FBI will do absolutely nothing to stop him.

[–] Lemminary 3 points 5 months ago

Stop it, don't get me wet thinking about these things.

[–] Anticorp 2 points 5 months ago

There is literally nothing he could do to force them to put him in jail. That should be blatantly obvious by now.

[–] Coffee_Addict 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Donald Trump: “Christians, get out and vote! Just this time – you won’t have to do it any more,” the Republican former president said on Friday night at a rally hosted in West Palm Beach, Florida, by the far-right advocacy group Turning Point Action.

“You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine. You won’t have to vote any more, my beautiful Christians,” he said with a slight shake of his head and his right hand pressed against the left side of his chest.

Let me fix this for him:

Donald Trump: ”Christians, get out and vote! Just this time – you won’t have to do it any more [because voting won’t matter next time],” the Republican former president said on Friday night at a rally hosted in West Palm Beach, Florida, by the far-right advocacy group Turning Point Action.

“You know what? It’ll be fixed [so I can’t lose again]! It’ll be fine. You won’t have to vote any more [because I’ll rig it so I can’t lose], my beautiful Christians,” he said with a slight shake of his head and his right hand pressed against the left side of his chest.

There we go. This makes his intentions a bit more clear.