this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2024
314 points (90.7% liked)

Science Memes

11440 readers
1478 users here now

Welcome to c/science_memes @ Mander.xyz!

A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.



Rules

  1. Don't throw mud. Behave like an intellectual and remember the human.
  2. Keep it rooted (on topic).
  3. No spam.
  4. Infographics welcome, get schooled.

This is a science community. We use the Dawkins definition of meme.



Research Committee

Other Mander Communities

Science and Research

Biology and Life Sciences

Physical Sciences

Humanities and Social Sciences

Practical and Applied Sciences

Memes

Miscellaneous

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
all 45 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Etterra 100 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Tree" isn't a biological definition. It's a descriptive term for "a tall plant with at least one rigid central trunk." Which means that anything that looks like a tree is probably a tree, regardless of species.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ayy, welcome to the tree club!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Klairabelle 2 points 5 months ago

TREEEEEESSSS THEY ARE UUUUSSSSSS

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

We welcome you to tree-hood, my fellow arbor

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you get pollinated by birds and bees?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

That's personal

[–] [email protected] 90 points 5 months ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago

No such thing as a tree? So you mean all those binary trees I've been inverting have been a lie? My whole world is shattered.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

Of plants native to the Canary Islands, wood independently evolved at least 38 times!

[–] dohpaz42 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You forgot about the myth of vegetables.

[–] Etterra 10 points 5 months ago

Except that yes there is. It's just not a scientific term. Same with fish.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

A local park ranger I know likes to remark that our state tree is a grass. (I'm in Florida.)

But I'd say that's also inaccurate. IMO, grasses are in the family Poaceae, and palms are in the family Arecaceae. I guess one could remark that our state tree is a commelinid...but I don't think tourists would get as much of a kick out of that.

[–] Dasus 6 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Neat read, thanks

[–] Reddfugee42 45 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There's no widely-accepted scientific definition of a tree.

##PeopleCorrectingPeopleIncorrectly

[–] Downcount 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Conifers aren't trees by this definition. It seems to completely ignore gymnosperms and even misclassified a couple as dicots like sequoias and junipers.

We need to stop looking for a scientifically coherent category for a tree and ,like fish, embrace the true, intuitive, childlike definition of it as just a form, a trunk with leaves at the top.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How many social credit points do I lose if I refer to bamboo products as "wood" outside of botany nerd circles?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago
[–] ctenidium 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If I remember correctly, wood consists mainly of cellulose, lignin, and hemi-cellulose. I don't know about bamboo, but I guess it's some kind of woody material.

[–] Seleni 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It’s the lack of lignin (bamboo uses silica as a strengthener) that sets it apart.

But bamboo is a grass, anyways.

[–] ctenidium 2 points 5 months ago

Never doubted bamboo not being a grass. But I didn't know about the silica thing - that's really cool!! Thank you for telling this!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

It’s the lack of lignin (bamboo uses silica as a strengthener)

Oh I see

[–] ctenidium 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

"Trees" have secondary growth while "palms" have primary growth. At least that is what I have been told in dendrology lectures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_growth

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

true enough, that doesn't exclude them from being trees though.

[–] NorthWestWind 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

From the coco palm family!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

🎵 Ya ya ya ya ya 🎵

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it looks like a tree and quacks like a tree though.

[–] Reddfugee42 9 points 5 months ago

Ironically, in this case, that literally means it's a tree

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Trees are the plant version of crabs.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Okay, and raspberries aren't technically berries at all, but aggregate fruits. In other words, so the fuck what? When you say 'coconut tree', everyone knows what plant you're referring to.

[–] robocall 12 points 5 months ago

You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you 🌴🥥🍹

[–] EleventhHour 9 points 5 months ago

Da palm grows da coconut and turns da election around

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Time to post one of my favorite songs:

https://youtu.be/PKQPey6L42M

("Da Coconut Nut", by Ryan Cayabyab. This version is probably the one performed by his group, Smokey Mountain.)

This song reminds us that the coconut is not a nut; it is the fruit of the cocopalm.

[–] Cadeillac 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can tell it's an Aspen from the way it is

[–] Button777777 2 points 5 months ago

Thats pretty neat!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I have literature right here that says otherwise.

Ahem..

"A told B, and B told C, I'll beat you to the top of the coconut tree."

[–] big_slap 1 points 5 months ago

science has gone too far with this one!!