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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Hey dnc I could be wrong but maybe it’s time you stopped fucking around playing grabass and

actually fucking try to come up with a coherent, pragmatic strategy to stop the fascists from winning the election, and execute on it.

And the plan must not give a single fuck about Joe’s or Kamala’s ego if it diminishes the chances of stopping the fascists by even a fraction of a percent.

Why is this so fucking hard for them to understand?

[–] kikutwo 1 points 6 months ago

This right here. The whole message is a dud.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago

according to a transcript obtained by NBC News. “It’s time to stop the leaks and the rampant rumors..."

Apparently it isn't?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'm gonna put myself in the shoe of some absurdly rich person who is donating to the Democrats who is on this call.

“Please help us turn down the volume on this conversation publicly,” Melissa Morales, founder and president of Somos Votantes, said on the call, according to a transcript obtained by NBC News. “It’s time to stop the leaks and the rampant rumors. Your message has been heard and received. But every day that we continue this publicly chaotic conversation, we come closer to a loss — no matter who the nominee is.”

Well... I can understand feeling a little cynical about "your message has been heard." Like, has it? It doesn't feel like it has. But I do have to say, I don't see how any person could disagree with the logic that yes, talking to the media about how much Joe Biden sucks and you can't support the Democrats anymore is (a) unlikely to lead to the Democrats suddenly embracing a winning strategy and (b) going to hurt the Democrats in this election. I think the way she said it gets pretty directly to the heart of what these people need to hear.

That didn’t sit well with some on the call.

“These are donors who are not used to getting admonished and told what to do,” the source said.

Those donors can go straight off and fuck themselves. "How dare you point out that I am fucking things up, I'm too important to have to listen to that" is exactly what the DNC has been doing for years. We don't need more of it in the equation.

[–] TheDemonBuer 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Those donors can go straight off and fuck themselves.

Unfortunately, they are the real power in this country. They are the king makers. Our political system is largely just a competition between two factions of wealthy elites. If not a true oligarchy, it's very oligarchic.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You’re right, we should start throwing them in the river while they bleat about how they are too important for things like that to happen to them, and then start holding publicly funded elections.

I am sure it is no coincidence that after Biden raised corporate taxes significantly and spent 2 trillion dollars on working people and climate change, they are suddenly so eager to switch to someone else (without particularly being bothered about who that other person should be and how they might fare in the election against Trump and playing up signs of weakness from the Biden side to argue for replacing him).

[–] MegaUltraChicken 3 points 6 months ago

we should start throwing them in the river while they bleat about how they are too important for things like that to happen to them

Sounds like we need to start up Throw Ted in the River Day. https://youtu.be/djgRuzqVyJA?si=f3b4z_1aOkBZEjj6

[–] mojofrododojo 3 points 6 months ago

REPEAL CITIZENS UNITED

[–] Myxomatosis 5 points 6 months ago

The garbage, tabloid news media in this country just can’t get enough of the views and ad revenue. Gotta keep up the constant stream of sensationalist, overly-dramatic headlines that often don’t reflect the reality of the situation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


That person and two other sources said many donors joined hoping to get an insider’s view of how to move forward in the wake of President Joe Biden’s dismal debate performance and the growing number of Democrats calling for him to drop out of the race.

The fallout from the call comes as donations to the Biden-Harris campaign and Democratic groups have plummeted and as Harris has been deployed several times to speak with donors as questions swirl over Biden’s future on the ticket.

The call with donors started with presentations from field organizers who expressed anger at the ongoing debate within the Democratic party about backing President Biden, given what they’ve seen and heard from voters on the ground, according to one source with direct knowledge of the discussion.

“Please help us turn down the volume on this conversation publicly,” Melissa Morales, founder and president of Somos Votantes, said on the call, according to a transcript obtained by NBC News.

Harris garnered applause at various parts of her speech talking about her and Biden’s record including advocating for the rights of the LGBTQ community.

Harris closed her speech at the event which was said to have raised $2 million by talking about her campaign manager when she ran for district attorney in San Francisco.


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[–] jimmydoreisalefty 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That person and two other sources said many donors joined hoping to get an insider’s view of how to move forward in the wake of President Joe Biden’s dismal debate performance and the growing number of Democrats calling for him to drop out of the race. Instead, they said donors left the call feeling disappointed and like they had not gained any new insights or helpful information.

The call had been organized by Jen O’Malley Dillon, the chair of Biden’s campaign, and not by the campaign’s finance team, according to a source familiar with the planning. One of the sources who was on the call said that the donors who participated represented a wide range of views — some diehard Biden fans, some unconvinced about his path forward and many views in between.

“Please help us turn down the volume on this conversation publicly,” Melissa Morales, founder and president of Somos Votantes, said on the call, according to a transcript obtained by NBC News. “It’s time to stop the leaks and the rampant rumors. Your message has been heard and received. But every day that we continue this publicly chaotic conversation, we come closer to a loss — no matter who the nominee is.”

“These are donors who are not used to getting admonished and told what to do,” the source said.

“She is on a tightrope. She has to be very careful not to alienate Biden,” Alickman said when asked about Harris praising Biden throughout the speech. “I actually would like to see Kamala at the top of the ticket. She could carry out and continue the policies of the Biden administration. I love Biden but I’m not sure he is up to the job. And, I’m worried he is going to lose against Trump.”

“I love Joe,” Newton said. “In a business context, it’s like your 81 year old salesman that’s goofed up at the convention and not making his numbers. And, you gotta go in and tell him, ‘Judy is replacing you.’ It’s no fun. But sadly that has to happen.”