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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 month ago (7 children)

In it's 'war against Hamas' Israel has now bombed 3 countries that has no Hamas

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (29 children)

The problem with the Israeli attacks i gaza is not the attacks themselves. Israel should have the right to defend themselves on all sides.

The problem is, that in Palestine they are using this as an excuse to kill as many civilians as they can get away with. This is genocide. They are more or less regulating the population of Palestine, and arguing that they in reality are fighting Hamas. The civilians are unfortunate accidents (that more or less keep on happening day in and day out)

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[–] disguy_ovahea 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Iran has been fighting a proxy conflict against Israel through the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas since 1985.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_proxy_conflict

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How is a state that's largely funded by another state not a proxy for the bigger state? It's not a Israel Iran proxy war. It's a us Iran proxy war

[–] disguy_ovahea 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Iran has been supplying the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas with munitions, intel, and training to support attacks on Israel.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (15 children)

And the US has been doing the same for Israel

[–] kbotc 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

… Israel will sink our ships if they find them inconvenient.

[–] Cocodapuf 8 points 1 month ago

Perhaps, but they'd do it with missiles that we designed and gave them. -- this is the problem.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Possibly because this is retaliation for drone strikes and not part of the "war against Hamas."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

People have been warning from day 1 about the possibility of a regional escalation.

Apparently you cannot spend months acting in a way that neighboors who already don't like you find morally reprehensible without some of those neighbors inserting themselves into the conflict.

The real question is how long can Iran avoid getting dragged into that. And if Iran gets involved directly, will we be able to contain this to a regional war, or will this small decades old conflict between parties whose total population is only about 12 million become the trigger for world war 3.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Maybe someone mumbled "they have hummus" and everyone else just rolled with it?

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[–] FlyingSquid 41 points 1 month ago (3 children)

FYI: Houthis recruit and have been responsible for the battliefield deaths of thousands of child soldiers.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/16/houthis-continue-to-recruit-child-soldiers-despite-yemen-truce

Neither side is the good guy here.

[–] distantsounds 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Neither is good, but bombing the child soldiers feels worse.

[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Once you're responsible for the deaths of thousands of children, I don't think it's a "which is worse" contest.

Because really, you don't get much worse than murdering thousands of children.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Add it to the pile of Israeli war crimes

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[–] IndustryStandard 3 points 1 month ago

Killed by Saudi Arabia with American weapons

[–] Godric 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To paraphrase: "The Houthis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else and nobody was going to bomb them."

Maybe don't bomb people, and, failing that, don't be surprised when they bomb you back.

[–] Aqarius 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Funny, works with "The Israelis entered..." too.

[–] Godric 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Funnier still how the headlines on certain publications work. Houthis bomb Israel, Israel bombs them back; headline is "Israel bombs Yemen in Escalation with Houthis".

[–] Aqarius 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it should just say "Yemenis die amid bombing".

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

hopefully they try to open a third front with Lebanon and seal the deal on the end of their apartheid settler project 🙏

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Is this still called self defence? Surely people can see through this. No?

[–] MeanEYE 3 points 1 month ago

Yes, Israel escalated this. When they bomb innocent trade ships, that's fine, that's not escalation that's just tuesday and they are being cute.

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