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Gaza man with Down's syndrome attacked by IDF dog and left to die (www.bbc.co.uk)

submitted 4 months ago by FelixCress to c/world

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[–] WhyDoYouPersist 78 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the IDF

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Needs to be a song

[–] Linkerbaan 3 points 4 months ago

Coming straight from the underground tunnel network.

[–] robocall 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Say it with me everyone, "he was Hamas"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Obviously special forces...sorry

[–] sandbox 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As a disabled person, “special” in reference to disabled people is imo one of the worst ableist slurs, I find it more offensive than retard. my experience isn’t universal, but I just wanted to let you know, I know it was just a joke and I don’t want to make you feel bad, but I have to be honest and say, it does hurt a bit to see it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it does hurt a bit to see it.

Oh man, you're not going to like what the IDF did.

[–] jorp 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That person was as gentle and kind as they could be while sharing something with you to try to help you become a better person. You should do better.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

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[–] jorp 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

(Regrettably) he's here all week folks!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

With jokes this controversial I'm hoping to score a Netflix special

[–] jorp 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honestly your commitment to the bit is winning me back over even though you're objectively kind of a dick

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In all seriousness, where the line between funny and offensive is drawn is completely subjective. My line is obviously different than others. I didn't feel that my puns were personally directed at anyone and I didn't see them as perpetuating any harmful stigma or stereotypes. It uses a word I wouldn't actually use in daily life but the pun wouldn't work otherwise. Life has a lot of legitimate malicious people out there that there's no need to split hairs to find more. There is no subjective way to look at what the IDF did in this case. It is objectively malicious and evil. I didn't expect my puns to be the thing that upset people.

I thought of another joke. Being mindful, I've hidden the punchline. You've been warned!

Say the guy here was Hamas. Do you think he'd carry...

a .38 Special?

[–] sandbox 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I understand that you probably don’t really recognise the impact of ableist slurs, but as someone who has been bullied, harassed, beaten up and sexually assaulted by people mocking me by using those slurs, they trigger a bit of a traumatic response. It’s not that they’re directed at anyone in particular, it’s just that they’re never possible to use in reference to disabled people without being, at the very least, extremely patronising, and extremely dehumanising at the worst.

I completely get that you didn’t intend any harm, and you were trying to criticise the IDF in your own way, and I’m really sympathetic towards that: fuck the IDF, 100%, they’re incredibly evil.

All I am doing is just asking you to please reconsider using ableist slurs as jokes in the future, that’s all. We’re all human, we all make mistakes, and it’s a completely normal reaction to protect our own ego when someone tells us that we hurt them in some way, so I don’t blame you for your reaction, but please try to overcome that knee-jerk reaction <3

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's not a knee jerk reaction. You're one person out of 8 billion. I'm treating your request the way I'd treat any request made to me by a random person on the internet. <3

[–] sandbox 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How many people are you willing to harm before you change your behaviour? What’s the trade off in human suffering compared to the positives of making your joke?

[+] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

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[–] sandbox 3 points 4 months ago

I already said that I don’t speak for all disabled people, though, anecdotally, in groups that I’m in (I volunteer with a disability support group), the terms special and special needs are often highlighted as ableist terms that disabled people find offensive or get used against them as slurs. Some research online also bears that out, a number of reputable sources online have recommended avoiding the use of the terms special and special needs.

It doesn’t really particularly matter whether you’re disabled or not. This isn’t about identity, it’s about using a slur. If you had used the n-word as part of a joke and got backlash I think you’d understand this a bit better.

You’re being pretty callous around the fact that you genuinely emotionally hurt me, I’ve been as respectful, kind and considerate of you and your feelings as I can be. How do you expect to build a people-led movement to dismantle the exploitation of the working class if you can’t bring yourself to even care for one other person? On just a human level, I’m not trying to have an argument where I one-up you or something like that, this isn’t some debate to win or lose, I’m just talking to you, human to human, and trying to help you to understand that you’re unintentionally hurting people who are one of the most vulnerable minorities in society.

I truly hope that you’re just being a bit edgy and that in future you really will think twice about this kind of thing, regardless of what you write now.

[–] jorp 0 points 4 months ago

It was one thing when you were just constantly clowning but now you're re-investing heavily in just being an asshole.

It's a fine line and you don't seem to have the ability to pull it off.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So Gazans with Down syndrome look similar to Westerners with Down syndrome. In a way it makes me feel like all of us in world are less different than we might think.

[–] Xeroxchasechase 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You didn't feel it until you saw the picture? Let me tell you: even without down syndrome we're all alike!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

❤️

I feels it! We’re far more alike than we are different! We have the same mama you & me, all of us :)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

And when the war started and he was terrorised by the sound of bombs falling, someone always said things were going to be ok. Muhammed was heavy and found movement difficult.

Along with other residents of Shejaiya, east of Gaza City centre, the Bhars were given orders to evacuate by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).

But the Bhars were tired of moving.In a weary tone, Nabila, who is a widow, reeled off the names of relatives’ homes where they’d sought shelter.“We evacuated around 15 times.

Nabila says there were several dozen soldiers with a combat dog - animals used to find Hamas fighters, and check for booby traps and explosives.

A terrified Muhammed, who had always depended on his family for help, was now in the care of combat soldiers, who had come from streets where they’d been fighting close quarter battles with Hamas.

“This scene I will never forget… I constantly see the dog tearing at him and his hand, and the blood pouring from his hand… It is always in front of my eyes, never leaving me for a moment.

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[–] Linkerbaan 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

For anyone wanting to see some grim reality of an israeli dog attacking a Palestinian woman in Gaza recently:

NSFL: Twitter video link

[–] JacksonLamb 9 points 4 months ago

This part broke me.

“The dog attacked him, biting his chest and then his hand. Muhammed didn’t speak, only muttering ‘No, no, no.’ The dog bit his arm and the blood was shed. I wanted to get to him but I couldn’t. No-one could get to him, and he was patting the dog’s head saying, ‘enough my dear enough.’ In the end, he relaxed his hand, and the dog started tearing at him while he was bleeding.”

[–] ghostdoggtv 4 points 4 months ago

Eye for an eye. Brutality seems to be the only language Israelis understand.