this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2024
339 points (99.1% liked)

World News

39155 readers
4440 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 29 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 110 points 4 months ago (5 children)

If justice isn't legally accessible it will be acquired by other means.

[–] WhatAmLemmy 71 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The working class has been crushed by neoliberalism for 50+ years and there's still no justice in site. The oligarchs that control "democracy" know there's a high chance they'll remain insulated from all the suffering they cause. They are so confident in this their goal now is to remove the illusion of democracy.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

All they had to do was construct a society where the working class is exposed exclusively to neoliberal propaganda from birth until death. Several generations onwards, and here we are. Class consciousness is essentially none amongst large swaths of the working class population.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago

Nice phrase but that doesn't seem to be how things have worked for a while now

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We're not French, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Liberté, égalité, fraternité

We can have them too!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

For that, we need mass organization, which is extremely difficult both logisticly (due to the size of the US and how spread out the polulation is) and politicly (decades of neoliberal and red scare propoganda).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Do you understand that with a response like this the only thing you are accomplishing is making someone with the right idea and passion... less passionate about the thing?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So give me a solution. How can America organize en masse?

[–] Glytch 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If only we had some way to communicate easily over long distances, maybe a network that allows for computers to interact like some kind of "Internet".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes what a shame, that kind of technology would be perfect so long as it wasn’t full of condescending cynical people who constantly shutdown any positive momentum for change that required vision.

Maybe we could have a network of quadcopter drones that delivered notes between people?

[–] Glytch 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Too expensive, can we go back to carrier pigeons?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Do you really think I am going to be the guy to say ”No” to bringing back carrier pigeons? Come on, be reasonable, I can’t say no to texting people via literal pidgeons.

[–] Glytch 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Carrier pigeons it is. The first one should be arriving in a week.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Can you send me some spare carrier pigeons? I’m fresh out.

Wait.. so do you tape like spare carrier pigeons to another carrier pigeon and send that pigeon or do you just send carrier pigeons on a one way trip with nothing to carry? I don’t know how this technology works.

[–] Iheartcheese 5 points 4 months ago

Lol no it won't.

[–] AshMan85 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

we need batman or the punisher lol

[–] grue 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Super heroes will not save us from this shit. Not ever. (Even if they weren't fictional.)

Super heroes exist to defend the (neoliberal) status quo.

[–] whotookkarl 5 points 4 months ago

Or a general strike organized by labor and student unions

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

So a rich guy who can put on a mask and beat up the poor while advancing the arms race with criminals becoming more unhinged or a guy whose family was murdered and starts turning to vigilante justice and became what every cop wet dreams that they actually are?

....Sure. That'll help. /s

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Here's a 'fun' math problem for the whole family:
Step 1) Find out what a life is worth: What was the amount of money awarded to relatives in the latest court case that had a payout for a death?
Step 2) Find out how much money was embezzled.
Step 3) Calculate the damage done by those fuckers in terms of people killed.

[–] Drunemeton 12 points 4 months ago

Last I read, online mind you, was that most insurance companies use 10 million in their equations.

If I remember correctly that’s the value an average person will earn companies they work for during their entire life. So the older you are the less you’re worth.

[–] jpreston2005 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The defendants in that case were acquitted because the income of money from illicit sources could not be determined, according to a court statement.

Sounds like the judge did their level best to find some random way to weasel out of doing their job. "Oh, wait, you can't prove definitively that every single penny of the laundered money was from illegal sources? Guess that means everyone is innocent!"

It can't just be me and my perspective. The world is just legitimately getting worse, in almost every respect. WTF.

[–] 5gruel -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The world is getting better in the long run by almost every metric, don't get sucked into the doomer mentality.

Still fucked up ruling though.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bro we're about to kill the whole fucking planet and America just legalized political assassination.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's less people living in poverty today than ever before. We all carry around super computers that connect us with our loved ones at all times and contain all of human knowledge. If you're over 5'8 and weigh more than 145 pounds then you're physically better off than the average US soldier during WW2. Diseases that used to kill millions every year are now close to eradication.

Don't mistake your increased awareness of global issues as things getting worse. This is the best time in human history to be alive. Anyone telling you different is looking at a very specific aspect of the past with rose tinted glasses.

[–] krazzyk 1 points 4 months ago

Without doing any fact checking myself, I've heard this many times before, and I'm sure the stats are there to back it up, but it sure feels like the world is going to shit...

Don't think you deserved to be downvoted for stating facts though.

[–] Linkerbaan 10 points 4 months ago

The system still working as intended.

[–] maxinstuff 4 points 4 months ago

“I resemble these accusations!” - Judge