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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I ended up making a site that will let people submit facts. They will be fact checked by my till I have the filtering completed. Please check it out and let me know what yall think. It was made to be extensible

whatthefacts.info.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

There are just two years to select and "two facts" in total? Or it doesn't work on mobile as expected.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Y2K issue was real, but a lot of people spent a lot of effort to fix it before it became a problem. The dire warnings were exaggerated, it was never going to end the world, but the problem really did exist and it really could have led to some pretty serious issues especially with financial institutions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Sorry, it was just a place holder while testing the database. Once I have an entry or two I’ll remove it.

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[–] Vigge93 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ITT: People misinterpreting the idea as "facts that your school taught wrong", when it's really saying, "things that have changed since you went to school" (either through a change in definition or by new research).

E.g. If you went to school before the early 2000's, you were taught that Pluto is a planet, while that is no longer true since it was recategorized in 2006.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the wrong aporoach.

You should build a mockup site, use it to raise 2M$ for the startup behind it you just created arguing you're about to collect personal data about the age, education level and place, curiosity, etc. with overinflated numbers on their real values.

Then you hire a bench of students, or better: launch a competition for the best "fact you were told that turned out wrong" with a 1k$ prize that you eventually give to some biz angel's investrent adviser's child.

Once data are acquired, claim the company is now worth 10M$ and raise that much in a new round.

Finally, sell the company for 20M$ either to a tech company that will enshitify, paywall and crater it.

You still don't have your website, but now you're rich and you no longer care about these things.

[–] nomous 3 points 1 day ago

Everyones first friend, Tom had the right idea. Check-in and cash-out, how much do you really need to live a happy fulfilling life? He's chilling on a tropical beach taking pictures of sunsets right now with no intention of going back to his old career.

[–] Second 60 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I knew I'd heard of a site that did this already. Couldn't remember the name, though. Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

So many would say "Pluto" and I would cry.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The dumbest shit I've heard throughout my year was at uni, from a physics professor, no less. He, with a straight face, was telling us that highlanders live longer because oxygen content is lower at high altitudes, and since oxygen is an oxidant, it makes people corrode away(??) faster and causes aging.

He was also a Chudinist, which is pseudo-science about searching the words RUS and names of old pagan gods in random, sometimes absolutely ridiculous places, like freshly crumpled A4 sheet or on the surface of the sun, and claiming it to be a sign of existence of greater ancient slavic race.

I once got into an argument with him because he was claiming that lifting an item in hands takes constant amount of energy, no matter how fast you do it. So I challenged him to a 5 minute plank... and he kicked me out from the class. But I didn't care, as I soon flunked out of that uni because he wasn't even the most schizo prof over there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The first two paragraphs are definitely wild, but I guess you've sorta nerd sniped me with the third paragraph.

It sounds like the professor was talking about the concept of work, in a physics sense. In this sense, work being done on an object is effectively just the difference in energy of that object between a start and end point. When you lift an object, it gains gravitational potential energy due to being higher up (it has farther to fall). If you lift it by the same amount, the amount of energy it gains is the same regardless of whether you do it quickly, slowly, or walk around the room and end up back in the same spot. The end result for the object is the same, so the amount of work done on it is considered to be the same. Obviously, in a common sense, some require more exertion than others--that's just not part of what's considered to be work on the object in that sense.

My physics professor discussed the difference between "work" in the physics sense and "work" in the common sense. As best I can recall (it's been years now), his demonstration was basically that he held something out at arm's length and said something like "it's not moving and not gaining any or losing any potential energy, so as far as physics is concerned, no work is being done on it. But the muscles in my arm certainly don't feel that way!" In both cases, you're actively exerting a force to counter the force of gravity, with the end result being that the object doesn't move, and so its energy stays the same. Thus, no work is done on that object as far as physics is concerned.

~~I'm not sure this extends to planking, though--your body is the object, in that case, and you're expending chemical energy to maintain that position. It's all a matter of what you include in the analysis, I guess.~~ Reading up on it, the concept of work in physics only seems to be concerned with forces and motion; I guess that makes sense, since it is physics. With that in mind, I guess planking would also be considered doing 0 work (again, in a physics sense).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You've had a great prof! Mine unfortunately wasn't as good and just handed me the book and asked how much energy it would take to lift it. Myself, thinking of muscles as linear motors rather than solid structures, said something along the lines of: "Depends on how fast you want me to do it. Just holding it I have to exert something like 10 watts, give or take", and he went absolutely wild, calling me names and saying that I'm dumb for even asking it, implying that it takes no energy to hold things, hence the plank challenge. Gotta admit, though, that I might have missed the topic of that particular lecture as I wasn't paying as much attention to it as I was about writing everything down with perfect formatting in LaTeX, hoping to catch up before the exams... Which got me in trouble with another prof who denied me from even taking the exam because she thought I was playing games during her lectures (I was the only student who brought a laptop), and to get to her I had to deal with a yet another prof who thought I was an outlaw biker because she saw me wearing a leather jacket, and tried to humiliate me in front of the board. Still a step up from a different uni that had the audacity to post a price-list for the grades on the door to exam room... One is the top university in my home region and second is mid-tier in the capital, so this is basically the sad state of academia in Russia, and, by certain extent, CIS countries. Speaking of which, do you happen to know any good (and preferably free) online courses on maths and physics? I know about khan academy, but it's a bit hard for me to chew through, and 3blue1brown who's been absolutely invaluable in clearing some of the crucial concepts I needed both for work and for learning stuff in general. Even though I'm fairly well off without it, I'd like to someday figure out what's the deal with quantum computing is, and not just that "a qubit is both 1 and 0 at the same time" which doesn't seem to make much sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I was lucky to have very good professors through most of university (in the US). It makes a huge difference in the experience. I'm sorry you had to deal with all of that, it sounds frustrating as can be. Teachers at any level should be encouraging and helpful, never condescending. I've heard plenty of stories about professors that pretty much power trip over it and use it as a chance to talk down to others, though. It sounds like you've got a lot of them in your area!

Unfortunately I'm not really familiar with the online education space. Khan Academy was what came to mind for me, but mostly only because I've heard it mentioned by others quite a bit. I don't have any personal experience with it or any other sites, so I can't really recommend any specific one to you. I wish you the best of luck in your future education endeavors, though!

I'm also not really any more familiar with quantum computers than you are either. I do remember quantum mechanics being discussed a tiny bit in university, but it was never a focus in any of my classes. It wasn't quantum computers specifically but I recall it being rather focused on statistics; the most specific thing I can remember being probability plots of where a particle might be at any given time (including the possibility that it might tunnel through its container). I never quite grasped it myself, either, but it was never an important part of my coursework so I never really had to.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just searched for Chudinism and found nothing. Typo? I'm really interested in that shit...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

It's about the followers of this guy.

There's barely information about him in English, but he basically wrote quite a few books "decoding" words off shitty photocopies of photos of historic artifacts. He was largely a laughing stock, but he did get a few followers, mostly elderly with early onset dementia, but also notably a few of high profile personalities, maybe even a couple of Putin's advisors.

For laughs, here are some of the most famous examples of his "deciphering" works:

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[–] chiliedogg 36 points 3 days ago (3 children)

"When and where did you graduate"

Texas: 2024

"... How can you even read this?"

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[–] [email protected] 143 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I went to a Christian private school.That list would take down the website for days!

[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 days ago

It just gives you the address of the nearest preschool to start over XD

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 3 days ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Better still there were a bunch of facts that were false when they were taught to you but for some reason were still taught to you.

Like the obvious one, the tongue doesn't actually have different regions on it for tasting different things, a fact that you probably didn't believe even back then because anyone with a sugar cube and 5 minutes can disprove that.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (7 children)

My 6th grade science teacher taught us that blood is red but that some people think it is blue until it touches air because our veins look blue under our skin. He explained how the different wavelengths of light are absorbed differently and they was why it looks that way. Two years later my 8th grade science teacher taught us that blood is blue until it touches air. She was not happy when I told her she was wrong. I even explained it and told her to go talk to the other teacher if she still did not understand. She still would not listen to me. Over half the class was in the same sixth grade class as me but I was the only one that either remembered or was willing to stand up to the teacher. I finished losing faith in the education system on that day.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Well my 6th grade science teacher told us that Chernobyl was fortold in the book of revelations and it meant that the world will end soon. Public school. In New England. In the 90s. The 1990s.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 days ago (38 children)

Antibiotics aren't for viruses. Cold air doesn't make you sick. Tongues don't have "taste zones." Muscles don't have memory.

And because you threw up for one day, you didn't have "the 24hr flu." You ate something bad or someone didn't wash their hands. The flu is short for influenza, which is a respiratory virus, which typically does not make you throw up and shit. More likely it was the dodgy gas station sushi.

Let's keep going...

[–] disguy_ovahea 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Anyone who has taken FDA mandated food safety training can confirm that food borne illness is the cause of most “stomach bugs.”

Also, there’s poop on everything. Wash your hands.

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[–] Juvyn00b 3 points 2 days ago

Tongue taste zones I clearly remember learning about in third grade or so. Also the food pyramid. Saw a video on that recently - what a joke.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

I could throw a site together if the community is willing to help curate the data.

From what I read here are some keys to follow:

Year Taught: Year of irrelevance: Country: Fact:

I could throw a form together for submissions to feed this site. Thoughts?

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[–] danc4498 27 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Back in my day the only planets we knew of were the ones in our solar system.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

And there were nine of them!

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[–] AdrianTheFrog 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just read the wikipedia list of common misconceptions

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (8 children)

list of common misconceptions

Link

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's kind of a fun idea, but as everyone has pointed out: every school is different, even of there is some centralized board of education, some times teachers just say dumb shit.

Also, when does a fact become a fact? Like, dinosaurs had feathers. It was theorized, then debated, then clarified, and now there are some reasonable consensus about it, but theropauds probably still aren't presented as having feathers in some books. And what teachers know this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or you get common misconceptions that were never facts. Like you only use 10% of your brain. I don't think science ever said that, but man the idea is/was really common.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are also plenty of things in science that are taught that are technically incorrect, but give you a working model that you can build on later. The atomic model being a rather typical example.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

That's fair: abstraction. The technical wrongness of "orbiting electrons" as in the whichever-model serves a purpose: the truth is hairy, and more importantly not practically relevant if you're calculating sliding boxes around planes and that sort of thing.

On the other hand, "10% of the brain" and similar nuggets of common "wisdom" are just flat-out wrong, often stupidly so. There's very little use in that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh. Yeah. That's a good point. When I taught a dead language, I would tell my students that all grammars lie to you, but some of the lies are useful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The Wittgensteinian Ladder. The pedagogical expedient misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Even just the map of the world is outdated pretty much by the time it's taught.

In 2023 Micronesia made a fairly minor change from the former name, "Federated States of Micronesia". But, in 2022 Turkey now wants you to use its metal name: Türkiye.

Then there's the new country of South Sudan, Bougainville on its way to splitting from Papua New Guinea. And Kosovo shows another problem -- whether its an independent country or not depends on who you ask. That includes regions like South Ossetia, Transnistria, Catalonia and Taiwan.

Then there are things that students are taught that we've known are wrong for over a century, but the fully correct version is too complex for anything below a university course. Like, Newton's laws are appropriate for high school, but they're known to be incorrect and are simplifications of Einstein's refinements. But, they're close enough for most purposes, and understanding Einstein's stuff is pretty hard. Same with models of the atom.

And, history is another subject where the deeper you dig, the more the generalizations you're taught are shown to be wrong. The names and dates might be the same, but the reason X happened is often a whole lot more complex than the simple reasons given in high school.

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[–] Got_Bent 28 points 3 days ago (10 children)

I went to religious school. Graduated thirty four years ago. That list would be mighty long.

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