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[–] Asifall 62 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Reminds me of my stepfather who is deeply conservative and an huge supporter of the military but his favorite movie is full metal jacket. I’ve tried to discuss what he thinks the point of the movie is and it seems like he never got past the “it looks cool” part.

[–] Dkarma 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A huge portion of American men are only as tough as the things they own.

In Texas they call it "all hat no cattle" Skaters just call them "posers"

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You can't have a good war movie that's also a parody, because people just take the cool/funny parts as approval of the atrocities.

And nothing is safe. You'll have sitting American Congressmen putting out hacked up Attack on Titan videos with zero context, because David v Goliath is just a cool image and you want to make teenager shock troops fighting hideous (((monsters))) on top of a big wall look Based.

Your enemy is always an existential threat and doing war crimes is incredibly cool. So yay fascism!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s like Paul Ryan (Republican politician) being a Rage Against the Machine fan. Even the band members were like dude, you don’t get it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Growing up, one my my classmates favorite movies was FMJ, but yeah he was super conservative and said his dream was to die for his country. Idk what goes through these people’s minds.

[–] MehBlah 75 points 4 days ago (5 children)

They never did figure it out. They had to be told. Conservatives are really bad at seeing the obvious much less any level of nuance.

[–] Sweetpeaches69 39 points 4 days ago (6 children)

That would be because, by and large, conservatives are fucking stupid

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

That's what happens when you tout that learning and education is bad and for the devil.

It's a huge swathe of masses who envies the knowledge of others and fears that they do not understand. Rather than admit their faults they double down on "learning is for dummies"

Don't get me wrong, there are many learned republicans, but the smartest ones are the ones who get elected. They fuck everybody else over for their own gains while being worshipped.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wait, what is this about? Are you saying that there are some people who can't figure out that homelander is the bad guy? Can you point me to one of these people?

[–] MehBlah 2 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Just go look through any The boys discussions and you will find those that think he is just doing whats necessary. There you have been pointed.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Plenty of people thought that Don Draper and Walter White were heroes.

[–] disguy_ovahea 38 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Walter White was an antihero. The US healthcare system was the villain.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (11 children)

The healthcare system was just a catalyst for his transformation into Heisenberg. He had multiple opportunities to stop during the first seasons. His greed and pride wouldn't allow him to do so.

[–] MehBlah 16 points 4 days ago

I'm pretty sure the rush of it was his addiction.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

No. Regardless of the healthcare system, White had the option of going to the people at Grey Matters and asking for help. There were plenty of times he could have just walked away with a boatload of cash. He was a cold blooded killer.

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[–] masquenox 16 points 4 days ago

Plenty of people thought that Don Draper and Walter White were heroes.

In our defense, I'd like to say that we have been living in a society that has been teaching us from birth to worship - no, fetishize is a more accurate term - the Don Drapers and Walter Whites of this world for hundreds of years now.

It's not an excuse... more just a mitigating factor that should be taken into account.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne 50 points 4 days ago (33 children)

Pick up a US or World Hstory book as an adult and two things will dispel the illusions you may have about Americans and the human race: First, the rest the world hates us for very good reasons, and the things we did on a smaller scale in previous centuries are now much more widespread. Second, our species is infinitely more capable of evil than you were made to understand.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

The rest of the world doesn't hate the US. Most of the world is just kinda annoyed at how Americans can be ignorant and very loud about it.

I go to Vietnam and see people wearing Captain America T-shirts. The Vietnamese would have good reason to hate America, but they generally don't.

America is mostly hated in just the fashy parts of the world where the government tells people that everything is America's fault to avoid responsibility. And even then I think it's mostly just to loyal minions that actually hate America.

Just get rid of the Electoral College so we don't have to worry about Bushy Trumpy Presidents anymore and we'd be all good.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So I haven't watched after season 2. What did Homelander have to do for conservatives to realize he's not the good guy?

Did he become an environmentalist or something? Because sociopathic narcissism, kidnapping, mass murdering innocents and being an allround asshole didn't do that, not even mentioning his literal nazi girlfriend.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't think it's Homelander's actions so much as Kripke saying in interviews that he and the writers are trying to be as obvious as possible that Homelander is the bad guy and based on Trump. And following up by saying if people think Homelander and his followers are role models then those people are not the fans they want.

[–] dustyData 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The fact that he had to spell it out loud because media literacy is dead and most people are incapable of reading nuanced subtext is appalling. Some people actually believed that it was nothing more than a gory satire of Marvel and DC comics.

[–] III 12 points 4 days ago

It stopped being nuanced after season one. Each season since has been an exercise in how far they have to go for some people to figure it out.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's more that this season they have abandoned almost all the nuance and are really rubbing their face in it. There was a whole episode about how Homelander supporters are big into all the conspiracy shit that modern conservatives are

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[–] John_McMurray 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Jesus. Are you guys gonna do.this every season?

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[–] hakunawazo 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Would that be the Russian counterparts?

History told:

Real history:

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[–] StaySquared 4 points 3 days ago

This... is genius.

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